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To: pezz who wrote (27048)1/7/2003 2:38:20 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) of 74559
 
<But we all live here....Who they gonna identify with? ..Since you haven't said we don't need a government and it needs money to run it seems we should all pay what we can.> Should Saddam's people identify with him? How about Stalin's? Hitler's? What about the melanin-rich in the south, right there in a freedom-loving democracy, voting for them to stay second class citizens? Should Democrats identify with King George II? Should foaming at the mouth Republicans have identified with Bill Clinton? Identifying with the government isn't as easy as that. Should one identify with the constitution? Or the holistic psychic ambience?

Pezz, this is a fascinating argument which I have been working on for decades and am still unresolved.

It's a bit like the circular definition of money as time and time as miles.

What is identity? We definitely are part of our country, and world. We are defined by our country and our country is defined by us. But we are two different entities, self and country, even though we aren't.

It's the old tribal scene writ large. We are the tribe, but we are individuals, but we aren't.

It's a question of degree. I've ended up, so far, in the libertarianz.org.nz camp. Having been in the socialist camp in my young days, before I realized how suffocating and destructive governments can be when overblown.

I am now an ambivalent tax payer. I don't want government to go away, because we need it. But I don't like the horrors they perpetrate. So I have to cut off their funds.

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