If it "came back strong", then that would mean that the people living under that system are of a very different mindset than you.
Not necessiarily. It could be imposed by force from a minority or it could win support from people who don't have to live with and don't understand the consequences and then be maintained by force. If it came back strong it would cause suffering whatever the mindset of its proponents.
It isn't stealing....the majority have agreed that those who have the most must give up some of it to help those who have less.
If the majority vote to steal from one and give to another its still theft. Majority agreement doesn't change it. Even if everyone but the victem agrees with it the moral nature of the act is unchanged.
And do you think that your comment that claims those opposing what you refer to as socialistic party planks because of their desire "for freedom and economic benefit to the country" is based on fact and is free of emotion. I, for one, don't think so mostly because the inverse of that comment does not result in less freedom and less economic benefit.
The inverse (more socialism or getting close to socialism if you like the wording better) does result in less freedom and reduced economic growth but that doesn't matter even if this was not true, and the motivations of those who oppose socialism were based on an incorrect theory that would not mean that they are not based on that theory.
Are things perfect? No. However, their socialistic tendencies have helped them, not hurt them...
You have not demonstrated that. You have not even demonstrated that they are above the rest of the country in terms of economic well being but even if you can demonstrate that, it isn't the same as showing that the socialistic tendencies have helped them. They can be above the national average (if they are) for any number of reasons, and it can be inspite of, rather then because of their tendancies. In any case the majority of taxes in the US go to the federal or state governments. Mpls St Paul could have more local taxes and regulation without totaly throwing into a situation of having much higher taxes then the rest of the MN or the country. When you compare countries on the other hand the more socialist they are the worse they tend to do economically.
Sorry....but after posting with you for over a year, your motivations tend to be tranparent.
I'm not so sure that motivations really are transparent. In any case you ignore my whole point. If you understand my motivations better then anyone else has ever understood the motivations of anyone, anwhere; you still have not dealt with the issue just by explaining my motivations.
The only difference between gov't and corp. is that with gov't you are required to pay a certain amount each year for basic services and you don't have a selection from which to choose.
The fact that a corporation can't take money from you without you contracting with it is a fundimental difference.
When a rich society refuses to prevent starvation and homelessness for all its people, then it only weakens itself.
Most people would define "a decent life" to be a level beyond prevention of starvation and homelessness.
Its not wrong; its the law.
Something can't be wrong if it is the law?!?
"Things will never be totally fair and equitable, and the attitudes that led to the riots are a large part of what keeps the rioters from having a decent life."
That's right.....the people in power do not want to share their power and/or wealth. And when the people not in power can't get a piece of the pie through normal means, they resort to violence. That given has been true as long as human society has been in existence.
The attitudes behind the riots are the sence of entitlement and the lack of desire to work hard for a long time to slowly move out of poverty or at least to a better situation even if it would still be called poor. That is what keeps some of the rioters from having a decent life. Others did have a decent life but saw there chance to grab some free things and to hurt some people that they don't like.
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