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Politics : Should God be replaced?
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To: zonder who wrote (14557)1/16/2003 12:07:24 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) of 28931
 
"Huh?"
Are you unaware of your own culpability in issuing insulting and condescending statements about and to me? Whatever! I'm willing to put that aside and even apologize for any such statements on my part. lets move on.

All along I have been asking a very basic metaphysical question. Metaphysics deals (philosophically) with the question of being or existence. Its a question that does not have a whole slew of answers. If you are willing to grant that reason and logic are capable of answering such a question in the first place then here are the options as I see them.

Either the universe as a whole is self-existent, self-sustaining and eternal, (I believe that is commonly called the "steady state" theory) or;

The universe as a whole, came into existence at a particular point, a view known as the "big bang" is the a popular expression of this.

Now, If you start with the second view then universe as we see it today is the result of a chain of cause and effect events that lead directly back to a single particle. That single particle itself either had a beginning or it must be as I said, self existent. The other option which I hold to be untenable is that the single particle began to exist spontaneously without a cause, because there is nothing else in the equation. No energy, no vacuum, no black holes, just the particle all by itself.

Here again is the basic statement that I made and I stand by it.
Everything that has a beginning also has a cause.
So what is the problem?

Greg
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