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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: tejek who wrote (158277)1/17/2003 4:40:32 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 1586547
 
Let me ask you.......why are you so concerned when by all demographic measures whites have it better in this country then compared to people of color?

Because I'm not much concerned with which race has it better. I am concerned with individuals being treated fairly. If individuals are not being treated fairly they we should concentrate on working towards fair treatment for those individuals (esp. if it is the government treating them unfairly). If individuals are treated justly and have a high degree of freedom but statistically some groups of individuals have less success then others then it is not a major issue with me. I'd prefer that racial classification be something that no one cares about anymore. Different white groups like Italians and Polish used to face discrimination, now few people care. No on talks about discrimination against blondes or people with green eyes. I would like to see skin color treated the same way.

Also because I don't want employment decisions and other similar decisions that could be affected by AA to become an inter-racial political fight for benefits. They should be made on merit not on who did better in the last round of an inter-racial turf war. If AA decides them you get less qualified candidates and a constant fight over who should get how much benefit for what reason.

That's why they fought for civil rights laws. Because of underlying prejudice, whites don't like to have to compete against blacks..

Some perhaps but most don't mind as long as the blacks don't get bonus points for skin color.

that's what racial prejudice is all about; it makes sure that certain peoples are excluded from the general benefits of society.

If prejudice is excluding certain races or other groups of people from the general benefits of society then it doesn't exist anymore. A person in any racial group benefits from society and can get a high position in it with or without AA. What does still exist is that individuals, perhaps a very large number of individuals, are treated unfairly because of their skin color. That's wrong, but AA is an example of the same thing being applied to a different group (or in a few rare cases its even applied to benefit white people where they are supposedly underrepresented at the expense of blacks or others).

Not in my experience.......most white guys don't want gov't work if they can help it.

1 - AA doesn't just apply to government workers.

2 - The majority of government employees are white.

" In the worst cases it can directly hurt the people who "benefit" from it by moving them in to positions that they really are not qualified for or hurt others by putting less qualified people in important positions. "

I believe you are reflecting a bias......and I'm not going there.


Its not a matter of my bias its a matter of AA causing a bias. If AA was put in place to favor white people then you would get unqualified or less qualified white people on the job. Any time you consider race to be part of the qualification rather then just hiring (or accepting for a position in a university or whatever) based on merit you reduce the quality of the workforce. Its not a matter of me thinking that blacks are less qualified, whatever group you favor with AA will have more non or under qualified people getting the position.

Tim
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