>> Yet be against a very real threat to world peace? Look around the world, how many conflicts are raging in the name of islam and allah. Would you care to explain why this is?>. A war badly conceived can be a much greater threat to world peace.
Terrorism is a vast amoeba, it is not located in Iraq.
This war carries a significant risk of enhancing the support base for terrorism.
I will look for some older posts as i hate to get into redundancy--here is recent one.
<<To:PartyTime who wrote (1850)
From: GodfreyDaniels Friday, Jan 17, 2003 7:03 PM
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<Do you think the US vs. Iraq war can be averted?> First let me say up front i was furious when the run to Baghdad was stopped in 1991. As i wanted Saddam dead and the Baath Party was then on a such manifestly criminal rampage we did have the moral high ground; but all that was then and this is now.
I, now, as then; would love to see Saddam dead, but now we in no way have the moral highground.
And i agree with much of what le Carre says.
Now to get specific can the war be averted.
One element that does make it possible to consider the war can be diverted is the inner sanctum of the Whitehouse is itself divided that roughly being Powell/Armitage camp versus the Cheney/Rumsfeld with Bush, however, presumably leaning strongly to the Cheney/Rumsfeld camp.
I basically think, because Rumsfeld oft brings it up, that a regime change that means Saddam Hussein and family and prime loyalist to Saddam go into exile would stop the war.
I think that the administration even harbors a hope that the huge build up of forces itself will get Saddam to realize the it's all over and thus seek exile.
But is that at all reasonable to think he would.
If what Dan Rather said is correct and that being that just before the U.S. called the halt of the run to Baghdad Saddam Hussein was about to board a helicopter and attempt to escape to Yemen, we can suspect Saddam Hussein knows when to get out.(Dan Rather himself was angry at the stoppage of the run to Baghdad and told this story in scorn of their stopping when all was virtually won).
But bottomline i see the Exile Card as the only hope of getting this mad adventure to be averted.
I make it clear i would have been glad to see Saddam done with in 1991 as i am not a pacifist in a religious context and have a motto "If ever you have a psycopath cornered kill him, because if youlet him go he will be back, psycopaths never change."
I stress the two words psycopath and sociopath are NOT synonymous as too many think they are synonymous.
At a later time i will discuss my conversations with an ex-Navy Seal who is a Persian Gulf war vet and who voted enthusiastically for Bush junior and how he i both can agree this war would be a grave mistake. Max >> 1/19 , a addendum--i add , it is a deep emotional desire for me to see Saddam either dead or at The Hague being tried for war crimes against humanity.
It is this emotion i am by-passing for i see too much ill coming from the removal of one man now, when 12 years ago it would have been a "piece of cake".
Maybe this potential Pandora's Box is payback for our betrayal of the Kurds and the southern Iraqi Shiites in 1991.
If we do not get the essential 2nd front to the north, we are really pushing the envelope of risk.
And i find it hard to believe if we REALLY wanted too, and went on 24/7 watch to activate a plan to assassinate Saddam at a given moment of opportunity, that this could not have been accomplished in the past.Max |
