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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: JohnM who wrote (67783)1/22/2003 5:52:09 PM
From: aladin  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
John,

You are big on this class thing. Define it, please.

[on soapbox]
My dad was a Msgt in the USAF. I went to school on the GI Bill and now through very hard work am under attack by the likes of you on of all things a class issue.

And as a white working in the south - many northern liberals (and I use that word derisively) assume bigotry. Now somehow the fact that I am an Irish Catholic - and was completely discriminated against until the '60s - is completely forgotten in both fact and law. After all I am a white male, and forced to accept the guilt of all you WASPs.

Maybe your ancestors messup up this country and you should volunteer your family to be on a list to give up slots, but this upsets a lot of Americans to no end.

A registry for white anglo protestants living in the US before emancipation (or before the civil rigts act) sounds about right.

My neighbors and their wives are under attack because they choose to drive SUV's. Your supposed populist views will completely piss off the middle class and anyone above it or hoping to rise above it. No wonder the dems are losing the Soccer mom vote - they drive vans and SUV's. The car pool to school requires one (5-8 seatbelts please).

As to this horrible widening income gap - start looking at absolute statistics and not relative. I don't care how much richer some people are than me - as long as I like where I am and where my kids are going.

There was a huge discussion on NPR 2 weeks ago on the issue of changing the whole school lunch program. No one is starving - in fact obesity is the big issue - teaching the less educated to eat better was the goal of the social welfare folks on the call.

Sure there is a huge income gap between farm workers in WV and Bill Gates, but lets really define poor - would millions of people be coming through our borders each year if this was still Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath era America?

The answer is no. During the '30's immigration almost came to a stop. So lets stop pretending the sky is falling and the breadlines are forming.

I really don't mind paying my taxes - I mind people telling me that since my refund is more than their refund its not fair. We never get to point out that those in the top 10% pay 90% of taxes from an absolute perspective. That isn't a good soundbite.
[off soapbox]

John
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