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Technology Stocks : Applied Materials No-Politics Thread (AMAT)
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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (5279)2/1/2003 10:44:53 AM
From: Kirk ©  Read Replies (2) of 25522
 
This is a major misconception made by bears:

For December, consumer spending up 0.9% (incomes up only 0.4%, so that means more than half of the increase in consumer spending was financed with yet more debt).

IF I refinance $100,000 in mortgage, lowering rates by only 1%, then I have roughly $1,000 a year more money to spend without adding any debt!

A family making $60,000 a year might have a $100,000 mortgage. I think all would say that the extra $80 a month they get from that refi would be spent.

what gets counted as consumer spending? Do mortgages and taxes count? I'd think that extra $1K a year to spend per $100K in mortgage refinanced is a big deal. Also, if you pay off one car that you bought with a 7% loan and buy a new car with a 3%, 5 yr loan, then you can afford more car... thus higher spending. Yes, you have "more debt" but is it dangerous debt if the payment is fixed for the term AND it is the same dollar amount but at a lower interest rate so you can afford to borrow more? Hardly something to worry about.

Now if you tell me people most of the spending is from people taking money out of their homes (which is some of the case but see the car example on why this is not an issue if they don't lose their jobs) AND increasing their monthly payment above their increase in income, then I'd worry.
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