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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: KonKilo who wrote (70937)2/2/2003 10:35:08 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Apparently, the Pakistan government's efforts have been ineffective.

I would NOT say they have been ineffective.

What I would say is that they have obviously not been as effective as we would all like. What we're really asking of the Pakistanis is to launch their country into full-scale civil war between modernist moderates and militants.
This is not something I would prefer they do, nor would any of their neighbors.

Pakistan is on the fine line between being a democracy and a dictatorship. Except they are facing the equivalent of a Nazi/Wiemar republic situation, where the stronger more ruthless, political parties are using the democratic process to lead to democracy's downfall there.

There are many parts of Pakistan that have NEVER truly been ruled or governed by other than local warlords since the country was founded 50+ years ago. To expect Islamaba to suddenly do it now is ridiculous, if not a flight of fantasy. They are talking about real lives, real guns, and untold systemic corruption

Pakistan, for all of it's faults, division, and turmoil, is NOT deserving of being compared to Iraq, where there is a despotic regime in power with imperialistic designs on the region. You might want to wait until Saddam is in such a position, possessing nuclear weapons, for this to be unmistakenly clear to everyone but the dullest of all intellects, but I am not. I can spot an incorrigible neighborhood bully a mile away. Especially when I've had to essentially be the "big brother" everyone else calls upon to protect them.

As for my being rude, I consider such an inane post by yourself to be an insult to this thread, if not the human race. But the greater insult was when John decided to imply your post was credible, rather than just a off-hand emotional comment.

There, do you feel better, now that I've personally addressed your BS post?

And now to address your next post to me:

When fighting a war on terrorism, you have to go where the terrorists are.

Indeed.. And we ARE there. But fighting a terrorist network is not like fighting a war. It's like fighting violent organized crime. In fact, terrorists are essentially an organized criminal enterprise, relying upon illicit activities to fund their cause. Every terrorist group I've ever heard of engages in criminal activities such as bank robberies, extorsion, kidnapping, prostitution, drug smuggling... you name it, they do it..

And you don't see us sending the army into our streets chasing after the mafia or the drug gangs, now do you??

Hawk
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