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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (6367)2/7/2003 3:46:25 PM
From: LPS5  Read Replies (1) of 25898
 
You sell the call. You get the premium. And have unlimited upside risk. You short. You get the sale price, which is admittedly many times the premium for a call, but you've still got unlimited upside risk.

Right. But if you have $10,000 you can short, say, 1000 shares of a $10 stock. With that same $10,000, if the premium on the calls struck at $9 is $1.50, you can sell vol on the notional of more than 6600 shares. That's leverage.

In practice, "inlimited" isn't really meaningful, since no stock can ever got to $infinity per share. In fact, the broker would close the position once you were 50% or 100% or 200% in the red.

But, if the float is thin, they may well have to go into the market to get the shares to cover.

Infinity is a theoretical construct, but imagine having shorted a particular stock - we'll call it XXXX - at $5.00 on the day before Thanksgiving, 1999. After all, the stock was up from about $2 or $3 just the day before. What do you think a retail interpretation of "infinity" meant to clearing firms in the couple of days after Thanksgiving as their losses multiplied by a factor of ten...and that's not counting additional shares sold short on the way up?

(PM me for a link to a chart to illustrate the example I'm citing.)

In addition, stock sold short is fixed in terms of the ratcheting effect as the price moves up and down; with options, if you've sold calls on a fairly static underlying issue or contract, you may find yourself in a situation where the contract gets 'unhooked.' What that means, essentially, is that a sold call with a large negative gamma gets effectively shorter as the price rises. So losses are compounded, and the rush to cover never helps.

This, incidentally, is the classic "peso" problem that I refer to in my profile.

LPS5
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