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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Ilaine who wrote (72159)2/7/2003 4:56:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
<Typical male argument, especially males from authoritarian/paternalistic/phallocentric cultures with well-entrenched class/caste systems. No evidence in support of your argument, you're just automatically right because you are who you are.>

Giggle. Arun, I think she got you right between the eyes and tossed in some genderist remarks to boot, which wouldn't be acceptable if they were about a race.

Slagging males is fair game these days. Denigration of typical thoughtless female 'thinking' is less politically correct. It might even be called sexist.

CB, that attitude is nothing new. It's not a male monopoly. It's an authoritarian thing. You'll find it in the lawyer caste, the bureaucrat class, the military class, the political class. Plenty of women have such an authoritarian streak. I'm sure there are some that don't. It's a real struggle for about half the population to even listen, let alone understand, and to mount a reasoned rebuttal leaves most floundering.

I hasten to add that I am NOT sexist. Heck, some of my best friends are thoughtless.

Mqurice

PS: Maori society is like your description. Sheilas aren't even allowed to speak on the marae. Iwi bosses are just right because of who they are. They don't need reasoning. They simply assert their authority.

New Zealand [and American] society until well/late into the 20th century was like that too. My mother was told "This is where you come in" [or words to that effect] when, at a school board meeting in the early 1960s, it was time to have after-meeting tea. Giggle. I can't recall her reply, but it would have been to the effect that if he would have difficulty with making tea, then she would be only too happy to go along with him to help. Not many women were doing much along those lines in those days [running the community]. Mostly they baked scones and discussed babies or were in 'women's jobs', such as nursing, teaching, secretarial, production line. The blokes did the man's work [which included running the show - outside the home anyway, where henpecking was an occupational hazard, which drove The Shed phenomenon in Kiwi culture].
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