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Strategies & Market Trends : Value Investing

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To: Paul Senior who wrote (16415)2/15/2003 9:18:57 AM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Read Replies (1) of 78672
 
I don't have figures for the macro level. I can speak of my social circle though. (I'm talking about a very small sample here

well, since a small sample is not as good as a large sample, why not consider some macro facts:

* mutual cash fund levels would need to more than double just to reach the average level over the past 30 years

* most individuals invest in the market through pension funds or equity mutual funds. last year the latter experienced their first net outflows in over a decade. but the amount was just $27 billion, which is only about 1% of assets. this contrasts to the hundreds of billions investors poured into these funds in the bubble years.

it is hard to say investors are avoiding stocks when they have only withdrawn 1% of assets from stock funds, which themselves have very low cash level (indicating the managers are bullish and also not worried about withdrawals causing a cash crunch).

if at some point individuals start to withdraw a more meaningful sum of money, such as 10-20% of assets (which is by no means inconceivable, and is in fact a given once boomers start to retire), the market will not respond kindly.

* SPX PE in 2002 was 30, or more than double the long-term average

* SPX dividend yield is less than half the long-term average

* market cap as percentage of GDP is STILL higher than at any previous market peak, including 1929. since 1995 market cap as % of GDP exploded, then receded following the bust, but is still WAY above long term average. it could fall by half.
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