"The only thing the man respects is force or the credible threat of force"
We've already agreed on that. In no way did that give sense to many of your other statements which keep coming in from left field.
"You seem to be having trouble following logical arguments"
No. Just trouble following baseballs being tossed in from the left field stands!
"You just insist that the consensus prevail THIS TIME"
For the umpteenth time: I don't insist on anything. I told you the process which is preferable and I told you why.
"Well, you object to having 4% of world population as a basis of arrogance, so I thought having 20% of world product might provide a better basis"
I see. I don't see any logical connection, however.
"We were talking about the fact that it did nothing about the Balkans chaos until the US made it happen"
My comment about Europe had nothing to do with the Balkans which was an issue which you brought up. And my comment about banditos simply does not exist.
"NOBODY is separated and isolated anymore"
Of course they are. The US is separated by huge oceans.
"I call that evasion. This was the question: "Just when, since WW2, has the US threatened invasion of Europe?"
Which was an immature assumption from what I actually said. The "long arm" of the US does not refer to them INVADING Europe. It refers to the abilitity to impact the economies and relationships between European countries...and the intrigues of puppet regimes and arms supplies and injections of huge sums of money and sharing of technology, and etc. But of course you sincerely believed that I intended by "the long arm of the US" to convey that the US is threatening to invade Europe?? Duh, Lazarus?
"It costs $$$$, lots of them, to have them there. We aren't going to wait forever"
YEP. So if they had made up their mind to invade Iraq months ago, then why don't they just get on with it? It's costing you money to stage all those trooops and equipment away from home.
"Yeah. It's about Iraq heading the UN Disarmament Committee and Libya replacing the US on the UN Human Rights Committee. Some recomendation."
A very stupid recommendation. Good for you. :-)
"So deceptive political machinations are now a virtue? In all your screeching about truth and right, this is where you end up???"
Your gratuitous falsehoods are becoming tiresome. I said nothing about it being a virtue. I told you why they did it--as a political machination.
Nor, have I been chatting with you in this discussion about truth and right. I have discussed with you what is beneficial and pragmatic and in the best interests of the West. Acting as a lone wolf will only undo a tremendous amount of diplomacy and good will and will set back US interests. But they've made up their mind to do it, and it's costing you money to bivouac those troops, so there you go... |