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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (15516)3/5/2003 8:11:20 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (5) of 25898
 
>>>All states ARE EQUAL according to international law.<<<
You're discussing "form", I'm discussing "substance".


Not really. I am discussing international law. You are discussing your gut-feelings and perceptions formed by your media.

We are bound to differ on the latter. The only point on which we can rationally discuss is the former.

if you recall, despite the existence of Israel, I don't see Iraq acknowledging it's "legitimacy".. Thus, why should legitimacy be reciprocated by Israelis???

Who cares what Israel thinks???

You are an American. Your country RECOGNIZES Iraq as a country. It also recognizes Saddam's government as its LEGITIMATE government, or else they would not be in such good relations for such a long time. We are talking about the US perception of Iraq. Again - Who cares what Israel thinks???

International law also says a lot of other things that no one abides by, or only adher to when it fits their agenda (as you accuse the US of doing)..

Do you have an example or are you just talking off the top of your head in another show of gut feelings and misconceptions formed by the media?

And I say that the existing international law is dysfunctional, corrupted, and skewed to nations who have no accountability to their own people

Hm. We should abolish international law and all bow before the great, just, and "good" US of A, I suppose. Brilliant.

As for Switzerland.. yes.. I would suggest that they were LESS legitimate than Turkey on the basis of substantive government.

With all due respect, Hawk, you are flying off on a tangent here and I cannot follow you in this conversation with this bizarre understanding of legitimacy that somehow disappears if women don't get to vote.

I say the right to terminate their own pregnancy is FAR MORE IMPORTANT for women then the right to vote. In this respect, going on your line of reasoning, the US is not a legitimate government. How do you like THAT?

Accept it - Legitimacy of a government has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the various rights the various citizens have. Period.
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