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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (80175)3/7/2003 2:15:11 PM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 

Over and over, the Hawks made assumptions about the world, which turned out to be false.


The Hawks read the world quite accurately when they advocated against going to the UN. It is the doves who look to have misread the world. The Hawks messed up with Turkey but seemed to have had a good handle on the rest of the world. I think you are paying too much attention to public posturing and not enough attention to actions. Most of the Gulf is screaming about the terrible US plan while providing much of the support the Hawks requested.

As for the UNSC, the Hawks are being Realists. The UNSC has no independent self-interest, it is simply a negotiating table with no moral authority. Why put the security interests of the United States in the hands of such a body? Very nice condemenation of the UNSC by the President of Rwanda this morning. "While the UNSC decided to take a little more time discussing out situation a million Rwandans were brutally slaughtered." I think the so-called Realists live in fantasy world.

It is interesting that in this very public diplomatic dispute you assume that one side is being straight-forward with their protestations while the other side is only posturing. So far we have only rhetoric not action to judge them. We shall only know the truth when they vote. As for Canada, they will be saluting the US flag the moment it is asked. Until then, we just want to be seen as not under the thumb. We would hate for the world to think of us as weak and foolish like Britain.

Paul
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