Following is my reply to Motley Fool Tinker's nonsense in italics below
Instead we have a fashionable movement, a distinct and loud minority, who have great difficulty in articulating their reasons for opposing this war, but have no problem spouting their opinion loudly.
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bulls**t
The case has been made but you would rather believe lies than look at the facts
1) Bush is telling lies about Iraq's capability to produce WMDs
2) Bush is telling lies about cooperation Blix is receiving
3) Bush is telling lies about Iraq ties to Al Qaeda
4) Powell is plagiarizing 10 year old documents as reasons for war
5) Bush forien policy is in shambles
6) Under the proposed war act, constitutional rights will be stripped away
7) Never before in US history has the US gone to war to prevent a war
8) We can not economically afford this war
9) Bush is telling lies about how much the war will cost
10) Bush is bribing or attempting to bribe countries to join him in the war effort
11) There are no grounds under international law for this war
12) Iraq is in violation of UN declarations but so is Israel and probably countless other countries we are not going to war over
13) Bush has claimed the he does not want war, he wants disarmament but senior administration official have now said that disarmament is not enough that Hussein must step down. More lies? Action speak louder than words. Anyone who thinks Bush does not want war when he is bribing countries left and right for it, making enemies out of friends, etc, is totally nuts.
14) The UN is against this war. If Iraq is in violation UN sanctions, the UN should decide the remedy not the US.
15) The case for war should be overwhelmingly compelling. By any rational standard it is not even close.
16) Much of the world thinks this is about oil and revenge. It probably is.
17) There is strong worldwide opinion against this war.
18) Are efforts should be to find and take out Al Qaueda not wasting resources in Iraq.
19) Iraq is in a very weakened state militarily and is no real threat to anyone. Iraq has not attacked another county for at least 10 years and has shown no inclanation to do so.
20) There is every liklihood that attacking Iraq will increase terrorism not reduce it.
21) Bush has threatened the first use of nuclear war in Iraq. How many millions and millions might this kill? We are willing to kill millions of Iraqis to save them?! Save them from who, us or them?
22) Since when is the US the world's policeman?
23) Prior meddling in Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan, Iran, and our training of Bin Laden have proven to be disasterous. Perhaps it's time we mind our own business.
24) There is no evidence that Iraq supports terrorism or is in any state to suggest that it could soon.
25) Iraq had no part in 911, but Saudai Arabia did.
26) Pakistan and Saudia Arabia are harboring Al Qaeda terrorists not Iraq.
27) The majority of US citizens would prefer to give inspections another chance. That happens to be the world majority opinion as well.
28) The war aftermath scenarios have not been well thought or published. Does anyone know how long we would be there or how much it would cost?
29) Inspectors have kept Hussein from doing anything silly for 10 years now. The cost of doubling or trippling inspectors is surely cheaper than keeping an armed force of tens of thousands of troops perhaps even 100's of thousands of troops in Iraq for god knows how long.
30) Bin Laden's biggest gripe against the US was US troops on sacred Arab soil. Hmmm- That's what kicked off 911 (and of course our own CIA training of Bin Laden to begin with). So now we are going to take a sketchy action that will end up giving more Moslems more reasons to hate us.
There you go Tinker.
30 good reasons.
The case for war.
1) Hussein is evil and it is the US's god given right to do with evil men whatever we want. The New war powers acts makes us Judge Jury and Exceutioner. It's about time!
2) Although he has no nuclear capability now, perhaps one day he might.
3) Although no one can find any chemical weapons (except destroyed or buried ones), we think he might have some.
4) Hussein has tortured his own people so we need to save them. The US is the world's policeman and we have every right to drop nuclear bombs on Iraq if that is what it takes to stop Hussein from torturing his own people.
5) In a far fetched roundabout way that Bin Laden even denies, perhaps there might be some Iraq connection to terrorists but no one can really state what it is, but on preventative grounds we better deal with it now in case it might be true.
6) Although CIA's own evidence suggests that the gas that killed Iraqis was Iranian in origin, and although we supplied Hussein with the gas that he did use against Iran, perhaps one day he might use chemicals, if he has any left, on his own people.
7) Although there is no evidence that Hussein wants to rule the world like Hitler, who knows what he might be thinking? In case Hussein has plans for a master race of Arabs and world domination, we better take him out now while we still have the muscle to do so.
8) Not that we want any oil of course, but a nice side affect just might be control of Iraqi oil fields.
9) It's good revenue for US weapons manufactors. War is one of the few remaining growth industries.
10) The media wants it. Look at the side show. The US blowing up Iraq bridges is fun to watch. Television advertizing revenues will likely go up.
There you go tinker.
The case for war
The case against war
SO (sarcasm on)
I would suggest the case for war is overwhelming and that peacenicks have no idea what they are saying and can not articulate any reasons against war. The 10 reasons for war are so compelling that I can not fathom why we have not launched a war already.
SF (sarcasm off)
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