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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: LindyBill who wrote (80750)3/9/2003 4:41:51 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Calle Nausea is a two-way street, LB, you got your 'moralistic nonsense' as you term it going one way, and you got your immoral arrogant unilateralist nonsense going downhill .... it is to the latter that i refer

'I am not going to start a discussion of the US's expansion during the 19th Century'

You couldn't start such a discussion, too late, it was begun over two hundreds years ago, and will continue for several more hundreds ...... and a good thing too, this discussion being a vital and integral part of understanding attitudes that go to the bone of national psyches, in the US, in other american nations, in the whole planet as it observes the interaction ..... you can't pretend it's out of date either, while employed by current US rulers are individuals complicit in unilateral 1980s atrocities against rinky-dink little Nicaragua who never threatened the US for one minute ... which atrocities, btw, produced mortal casualties of approximately thirty thousands, roughly ten times the number who died in the crimes of 11 Sept '01

Oh, that reminds me - somewhere upthread is stated something like 'the US was attacked on 11.09.01 and other countries weren't' .. this presumably in support of an argument in favour of removing all moral restriction on US actions as a result ..... well it simply is not the truth, it is the absolute opposite of the truth - at least eighty nations lost citizens there, NYC being in large measure a city of our species and not of one nation only ... more to the point, we all felt attacked by those crimes, and still do .... just as we feel attacked by the Bush II damage to international institutions in the manner of his reaction to whatever he's reacting to

Here's the list of countries -

Antigua & Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belgium
Belarus
Belize
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Colombia
Czech Republic
Dominica
Dominican
Republic
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Ethiopia
France
The Gambia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Grenada
Guatemala
Guyana
Haiti
Honduras
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Iran
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Lebanon
Liberia
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Mexico
The Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Nigeria
Pakistan
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
Slovakia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Sri Lanka
St. Kitts & Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent & the Grenadines
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
Togo
Trinidad & Tobago
Turkey
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States of America
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Venezuela
Yemen
Zimbabwe

usinfo.state.gov

You may note if you wish that México appears here .... Canada too, twenty-four canadians died there ... we were all together that day, side by side - ask yourself, who in the meantime has promoted in place of that sense of cooperation and solidarity a unilateralist policy of One-dictates-to-all?
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