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To: E. T. who wrote (68451)	3/11/2003 10:12:19 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) of 70976

> The news is mostly about the debate Sorry, I don't see any real debate on the news. Otherwise by now people would have had good answers. Here is something to keep in mind about propaganda. In a dictatorship, propaganda is easy to recognize. The news is controlled directly by the government and so the bias is very heavy and easily discernible. In a democratic society the methods are more sophisticated. The real propaganda is what you do not hear. For example, for most of the Viet Nam war the media provided the illusion of unbiased debate by presenting two sides to the story: the so called hawks who believed in using massive amounts of force to take out the communists, and the "doves" who said even if we do use the extra force we cannot win the war therefore it is best to pull out the military and think of alternate solutions. But justifications for the war were never debated much. Yet the polls showed that over 70% of Americans thought that our presence in Viet Nam was immoral to begin with and that Viet Namese should be free to live their lives as they want. This thought however was never presented by either side and it was the heart of the propaganda. Today we are using even less of this subtle approach. The media is pro-war that they are bordering on being the state's brain-washing machine instead of a news reporting organization. > The forged documents were sold to intelligence sources as real documents The notion that CIA can be duped into buying forged documents and that it lacks the forensic experts to tell if the documents are reliable before letting Powel present them to the world is just absurd! I think what you have here is what the State department refers to as "plausible deniability" which is neither plausible nor deniable (sorry, didn't know and didn't ask doesn't fly in intel circles). But if in fact we are so incompetent that we cannot tell what is real and what is not, and UN can actually figure this out, then there should be no question that UN is the better judge of what is going on in Iraq. ST

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