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To: JohnM who wrote (83464)	3/18/2003 4:43:28 PM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Nice post, Paul. Thanks. I have been working up these ideas for a couple of months and seeing Neocon and Lindy debate the word Imperialism gave me the energy to try to express them. Capitalist/Democratic/Technological system I am doing to Jacques Ellul what I understand Schumpeter did to Marx. My one large argument with this notion is that one can implant it by force. I don't see us tyring to implant it by force, I see us removing an obstacle to the C/D/T system by force. The C/D/T system advances according to it's own rules and logic. I see OBL, Wahhabism, Saddam as the last bulwarks of 19th century Islam resistance to C/D/T. We need to remove Saddam. We need to discredit and shame OBL. We need to undermine the moral authority of strong Wahhabism. We also need to nourish and protect the emerging Islamic C/D/T systems in Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and Morroco. Paul

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