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To: Clappy who wrote (57496)3/24/2003 3:54:18 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) of 65232
 
"It fails to provide proof that it was absolutley essential to go to war immediately. Was it possible to try harder to find solutions through diplomacy."

Clappy, even that article was quite explicit & factual that
it has been 12 years of diplomacy, cease fire agreements &
17 UN resolutions that utterly failed. The US/UK/ET AL last
chance approach to a diplomatic solution with the UN was
completely undermined by France, Germany & Russia.

We now know that Russia has made countless illegal arms
sales to Iraq & continues to supply Iraq, even with
technical expertise today. We know France made huge illegal
arms sales to Iraq, even as recently as two months ago. All
three of these countries had BILLION$ in contracts with
Iraq. Don't be surprised to find evidence of all three
being involved in illegal sales to Iraq to reconstitute
their WMD programs too. No wonder they actively thwarted
the threat of force to back up these diplomatic efforts
(and to give them any real meaning).

Couple that with Iraq's irrefutable ties to terrorist
organizations & the absolutely horrific human rights
violations, what choice did the Butcher of Baghdad leave us?

Is 12 years of diplomacy that was met with nothing but
lies, deceit & no real disarming of WMD programs really a
rush to war?

"In the eyes of many throughout the world it seemed to be a strategic rush to get this war under way."

Yup, via one of the largest disinformation campaigns ever
witnessed by Iraq, France, Germany & Russia. None of these
countries have been anywhere near honest in this
whatsoever. Even Hans Blix was not completely forthcoming
& hid damning evidence of multiple material breeches of
resolution 1441 in his report while he publicly praised
Iraq's cooperation.

All of this helped stir up a vocal left wing minority to
join the chorus, including some of our own Senators &
Congressmen (and yes they told bold faced lies & blatant
distortions clappy. That is an irrefutable fact). Scott &
his peers are part of that chorus whether you want to
believe it or not.

IMO, history will bear this all out.

"Although it may not be the primary reason for war, many see the fact that there are a lot of ties with the adminstation and the companies who will benefit in the nation building/rebuilding."

Clappy, this whole thing has become more about politics
than reality. Most of it is baseless, but since folks like
those Senators & Congressmen, Scott & his peers ET AL,
stuff like that has clouded any semblance of reality. Talk
about the fog of war. This has become the fog of reality.

I seriously doubt that President Bush is willing to go to
war & have our servicemen killed so his alleged cronies in
big oil, etc. could reap large profits. The facts & reality
of 9/11 going forward simply do not support this one bit.

"In addition many see the rush having to do with the election clock. Does the 2004 election weigh higher than the lives of our troops and Iraqi children? One may believe the administration sees it that way."

Wrong again. Why follow the same route that Bush Sr. did at
almost precisely the same time frame in the election cycle?
If you recall, Bush Sr. lost the election. If this was Bush
Jr's strategy, he would have waited & gone along with the
farce in the UN for several more months, thus insuring a
victory closer to the elections & glide in on the popular
support, YES???

"Will lowered oil help put a bandaid on our economy for a brief time period before the election? Possibly. Will the tax cuts? Possibly. Is there any thought about the current deficit? Not now."

That article answered most of your concern. As for the
deficit, I agree with Bush. It is cheaper to act than it is
to not act. And yes, there is a high cost for real freedom.
9/11 is proof positive of the cost of inaction.

"Does this administration's thinking appear to be trying to find a solution that benefits themselves? Possibly. The world now sees us as a bully instead the great country we are. To them we don't appear to wise and caring. Perhaps we are seen as greedy."

Well, that is your opinion. As for world opinion, I
discussed that above. It has been skewed by countries with
fears of being exposed for their dirty deeds & by political
extremists here in the USA who have put politics above
national security. Again, it's one of the largest
disinformation campaigns ever.

"We are positioning ourselves in a strategic manner to ensure energy cost will remain low. In addition it gives us the illusion that we have illiminated the threat of terrorism........."

Well, now you are leaving any semblance of reality &
into wild, unsupportable speculation. So is most of the
remaining portion of your post. It's too bad clappy.

You just can't help but buy into political propaganda when
your President has been direct, honest & straightforward
about the war on terrorism & the Iraq situation from the
very beginning. Your wild, unsupportable speculation has no
basis in reality. President Bush's words, deeds & actions
absolutely do.
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