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Politics : Support the French! Viva Democracy!

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (524)3/30/2003 8:55:37 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (3) of 7831
 
You need to re-examine your position from the ground up.

Yeah, that occurred to me. <g>

Though my suspicion is that he will not anyway.

Well, of course he won't back out. That would make things even worse. Even people like me who didn't want this war realize that. I suppose it's nice that I can agree with Bush on something. <g>

It means 3/4 of Americans back him in this matter.

Why do you say that? Couldn't it just as easily mean that 3/4 of Americans support our troops? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as long as the "number," whatever it may mean, is high?

They ain't gonna stop the war.

No, they're not. I posted an article the other day about that, about how all they're doing is annoying folks who are trying to go about their daily lives and not influencing the WH one bit. I think the article called the demonstrations a "primal scream," which I can understand but which is quite useless.

I don't remember it previously.

That's because my distaste for "butcherous dictators" is as great as yours. Don't go black/white on me now, Laz. You're smarter than that.

And I think the protestors in this country really should give thought to the idea that Saddam watches CNN too and they are effectively giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Yeah, no aid but probably a little comfort. Not enough to make a difference in the war. IMO, that little bit of comfort in trivial compared with the principle of protesting government policies that one disapproves. Small price to pay for freedom.

so should the Iraqi people.

Probably they should appreciate what is being done. Just like the French should. <gggggggggg> But that result is by no means assured. Pe3rhaps not even likely, at least not in my lifetime.

but that also illustrates clearly that the US was right all along about his possession of chemical weapons

Yes, but when all is said and done, will that really matter? Hard to say. It will matter to Americans who will become even more cocky about being "right." To the Arab street, it may be just one small thing on our side of the equation, but not enough to balance out all the perceived negatives, assuming, that is, that they even believe he used them. They believe a farmer shot down an Apache, after all. Being right may be a Pyrrhic victory.

At THAT point, we get to bake crow for France and the UN.
Yep, you're right about that. Hope we get a chance to enjoy it. See above.

After the UN is extinct, maybe a workable international organization can be built.

So, are you proposing we occupy Iraq until that happens?

SUppose the US were occupy Iraq for 6 months or a year, write a constitution for it, install a gov't, stabilize it, then withdraw US forces, but continue to provide aid. Is that still stupid?

Oh, I see you've bought into the cakewalk propaganda. Perhaps you have more in common with the dreamers who are protesting than you think. <g> But to answer your question, if that were assured or even likely, then the war would not be conspicuously stupid, only arguably stupid.
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