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Politics : Stop the War!

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (13430)4/14/2003 6:08:18 PM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) of 21614
 
Logic should be dictating to you that you've answered your own question

It does not. I am not a native speaker of English and I am far from sure as to what you might be referring to as "cult of personality". I have never heard of that term before and kindly asked you to define it.

Anybody who perceives they need to incorporate the name of a particular individual into the constitution of their government

In the constitution, his name is referred to in the sentence that goes "principles and reforms of Ataturk", referring to the likes of changing the alphabet to Latin characters, changing the dress code from veils for women to a western code, etc. It is not a veneration of his personality.

... let alone do it by his title as "father of the turks", and not by his real name, is creating a cult of personality.

Oh jeez. Excuse me but your ignorance is reaching very annoying proportions. That IS his real name. He does not have another surname. I explained this to you before, but here it goes:

Turks did not have surnames in the Ottoman Empire, where he would have been called Mustafa Kemal Bey, with the last word meaning "Mister". With the establishment of the Republic of Turkey, he took the name "Ataturk" by which he was referred to thereafter, much as we call George Bush simply "Bush".

The Turks have Kemalism

Yes they do. Much like any other doctrine is named after its creator.

A cult of personality is a generally derogative term to criticize the worship of a single leader

Thanks for that definition. So you were using it as a deragotary term.

I am not sure why, though. Yes, Turks do adore Ataturk to a degree that might seem excessive to others, but they do have reasons to admire him, imho, and this is really not forced on them. They are not forced to hang up his photograph, but most do. The only people who speak against Ataturk are the religious guys, and that because he steered the country on a strictly secular course immediately after the establishment of Turkey.

I seriously cannot understand your insistence on this "deragotary" depiction. Turks adore the guy and if they wish to portray him as better, more handsome, and all around more positive than he ever way, that is their choice.

bowing down in front of one of his posters paying "homage" to his greatness.

Oh please. Nobody bows down in front of Ataturk's pictures. Respect and admiration is not the same thing as religious fervor.
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