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Politics : Stop the War!

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (15208)4/22/2003 3:26:55 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Read Replies (1) of 21614
 
Yes, additionally, don't forget the "attack" on the russian embassador convoy.

Plus the closing of this site, "final letter".

The interesting is obviously what Bush promised in return of a shorter, non-city guerilla war.

Maybe it will be as it was with the Cuba crises, took 30 years before some info of it was
declassifed in USA, although oviously widely known outside. (However, some aspects
still seem to classified, waiting until the USA-Cuba relations are normalized)

Ilmarinen

Ouch, another idiot on Russia and Khrushchev, startin good style
booknotes.org
booknotes.org

"The definitive biography of the mercurial Soviet
leader who succeeded and denounced Stalin.

Remembered by many as the Soviet leader who
banged his shoe at the United Nations, .."

It is of course true that "remebered by many", another thing
that he never banged a shoe in UN, however,

- he used to take off his shoes under the table
- the clip showed him banging his hand, but the creative voice said "shoe"

Which is why so many TV-viewers could testify to the whole thing and
pass any polygraph test, as they actually believe it, have seen it themselves

two steadfast hand-claps for lousy propaganda, increasing credibility

About comments from the son, Sergei

And when he called me up, my hand might have been trembling but he
was terrific about it. He talked for three hours about factual errors which
he corrected, and I changed, and then he challenged some of my
interpretations but he said from the very beginning that these were my
interpretations, not his, and that I have to stick to them if I chose to do
so and for the most part I did.

LAMB: Did he ever quarrel with you about some of the
characterizations of Khrushchev?

TAUBMAN: Well, he quarreled about things from major to minor. He
quarreled, for example, about something that`s minor but it`s very well
know, the question about whether he banged his shoe. Sergei believes
on the basis of what he`s read and hear that Khrushchev did not bang
that shoe on that table at the United Nations.

LAMB: When? What year was that?

TAUBMAN: That was 1960, September, 1960. And, he had some
evidence. I made a point of trying to find out. I found a "New York
Times" correspondent who had been in the hall that day and who swears
that the shoe was brandished but never banged. That is not a major
distinction as historical distinctions go, but I think it`s interesting.

I also read an account by a Russian who was there who claims that
somebody stepped on Khrushchev`s shoe. It came off and was handed
back to him in a napkin, which he then placed on the table. So, under
that account he didn`t take it off. He didn`t brandish it and he didn`t
bang it. Well, that`s one example of a disagreement. I eventually went
with the notion that he banged it.

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ho-ho... " I eventually went with the notion that he banged it."
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