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Politics : foreign affairs, unchaperoned
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To: Thomas M. who wrote (32)5/3/2003 2:34:32 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) of 261
 
All approving? .... mmm, i don't think the word quite applies, beyond two posts there by a single wannabe johnbircher ... observe kumar commiserating more than anything, in two posts, same with Lindybill pretty much, same CB .... none of them is approving of the central point that jumps out at me, which is david's suggestion that the US invade and do regime change there, to whatever degree he is suggesting that ...... teevee may appear to you to be approving, but i know the guy, what he types there is tongue in cheek, pure sarcasm ..... you see, both david and teevee i know fairly well, they are resource players, and both post on my winter thread -g-

david is typing that under considerable stress, it has not been a pretty picture in Venezuela recently, this Chávez is a repressive little socialist dickhead, and he is killing the country .... now i know you don't want to hear that, but it's the fact of the matter .... sure, you can point to the old oligarchy that is most threatened by him, who would undoubtedly abuse power were they to get it back, and say they are bad people too, and i will say yes, definitely, but so what - as david is falling into the binary absolutist trap in that post, so will you be, in supporting a little junior stalinist like this Hugo

There are never only two roads to take, never only two diametrically opposed camps from which to choose .... there is a whole world out there, we the Normal People have a perfect right to give the finger to all who say to us, yer with us or yer agin us

A few months ago, a man named Jorge Castañeda quit his job as foreign ministre of México, just in advance of getting fired for pissing off two people in particular - Fidel Castro Ruz, and George Dubya Bush .... lol, no kidding ... and he would have for this alone my deepest respect, if he hadn't already had it for numerous intelligent positions .... when he was confronted with each of these individuals playing the dickhead, he straight out in a calm tone of voice said, yer a dickhead .... couched in all the appropriate diplomatic terms of course, 'this position we find unfortunate, inconsistent with the goals and aspirations of the pueblo mejicano', bla bla bla ... translation - yer being a dickhead, Fidel/Dubya

And he was dead right, on both counts .... so Fox had to fire him, of course, can't have a straight shooter running the diplomatic service, that would never do ..... you need somebody who can eat shit and smile wide .... Thomas, you strike me like somebody who would quite understandably turn up his nose at Dubya's shit, but you seem to want double helpings of that of Castro and Chávez .... ? ... correct me if i'm wrong there, eh
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