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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!
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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (12014)8/3/1997 2:55:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly   of 108807
 
Augustine was a neo-Platonist and former Manichaen. Thomas Aquinas was the Aristotelean. Modern science has a number of roots that lead back to the Christian scholars of the Middle Ages: Roger Bacon, William of Occam, Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, and others. The idea that design and order exist in the cosmos, because of the existence of a Designer, prompted these men to take nature apart to study it. Galileo's famous problem stemmed from the neo-Platonic ideas about the universe that were held by the Vatican. It was in the Protestant north of Europe that science was really able to flourish, although it has many foundations in the Catholic monasteries prior to the Reformation. The writing of Stanley Jaki is a good introduction to the development of scientific thought within Christendom.

Free Will and Predestination are an old debate within Christianity, although it's really quite different than the Free Will/ Determinism debate that Maurice and I kicked around last summer. Augustine and Calvinism adhere to Predestination, as far as salvation is concerned. Catholicism is closer to free will, as is "Arminianism". The latitude of human freedom of action has been just as big an argument within Christianity as in the rest of philosophy. There is no way to use the tools of science to either prove or disprove the existence of God. It is an epistemological debate that belongs to philosophy.
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