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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (101567)6/14/2003 6:24:59 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "How can ANYONE, let alone you, know such a number?"

Okay, you admit that you don't have the slightest idea how the war in Iraq is going to go, LOL.

Re: "And what's the use of even making such projections? It doesn't fulfill the goal. It doesn't help resolve any humanitarian suffering. ... What I look at is mission."

Failing to analyze the costs of a mission is a big error on the part of the government. But for a soldier, it's what he does. Your attitude is one of "mine is not to question why, mine is but to do or die".

Arguing this way is hardly doing your point of view any good. What do you think people reading this will conclude? That you don't care about the number of Americans who will die? That you will "bear any burden"?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

(1) You're not bearing any burden at all. You're safe as a bug in a rug.

(2) The American people, on the other hand, are not and will never be in the mood to "bear any burden". They want to know how much it costs, and they also want to know who gets the advantage. And so far it looks like Israel is the only who gets the advantage.

Re: "Will Iraq be a better place 6 months from now, with people working, making more money, pumping oil around the world, and seeing a return to a level of what we call "normalcy"."

Okay, why don't you make the simple statement to the effect that you expect that the war will be largely over six months from now? Or are you too unsure of it?

Re: "And that anything the US does militarily should be governed by casualty counts, not worthiness of the mission goal."

Just yesterday you were quoting body counts to me.

Re: "I seek to avoid casualities on both sides, but don't let that deflect me from the ultimate objective that MUST be accomplished."

If the objective is pacifying the Arabs, we've made nothing but regress since Bush was elected, as every single poll of them shows. We've made absolutely no progress at all. So what you're promising is progress at some indefinite future in a war that actually doesn't have an end. Any more than the Israeli fight against terrorism has had an end.

Re: "And I can only imagine how you would be should the US ever find itself invaded (however unlikely)."

This is such a cheap shot. If you think that Israel is a part of the US, and therefore must be defended, go ahead and say it like a man.

Re: "Don't do anything if it costs you too much."

Your theory is incompatible with the demonstrable fact that I supported the attack on Afghanistan, LOL. You're just making up a simple straw man.

Re: "We're just another paper tiger who can't stand to take casualities, no matter how strategic the victory might be."

Okay, how many casualties can we stand? Put a number on it.

And how strategic is the victory when right after the invasion of Iraq you idiots are already talking about going after Iran and Syria? The attack on Iraq was supposed to cow the Iranians and Syrians into submission. Surprise, it didn't work. Some strategic victory.

-- Carl
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