Pretty pitiful show on WMDs so far Hawk, presently it is clear that there was no clear and present danger of them as was strongly hinted at, nay stated outright, by the war marketing crowd .... so the gap to which i was referring, was between the advertising and the product delivered .... can't return the merchandise and get your money back on a deal like this though, this is the trouble, once you've got your troops occupying hostile territory, they're stuck there .... 'wherever you go, there you are'
Things like this, you're better off going with friends .... fine saturday morning here, don't feel like getting into legalistic technicalities of it, not sure i would anyway, don't think it all that important .... basic facts of the case are these -
1. people in power in the US wanted a war
2. they failed to convince their allies of its merits
3. they got their war anyway, just took it
4. now it's theirs
To such extent that the UN could not arrest in time any of the first three factors, the UN is a failure ... quod erat demonstrandum, if you've accepted the premise earlier that the less war the better, which granted, not all have .... many of the Rest of Us see your neocons falling into line with bin Laden's agenda, of setting the umma against the infidel by stimulating the latter to invade and occupy the former, in hasty and ill-conceived manner with little thought or plan for the future of occupied territories
What works, works, and what doesn't work is bad .... the current UN doesn't work, i granted you that right off [although as CB points out, parts of it like the WHO do work very well] [maybe we could just sack all politicians involved and replace them with doctors] [that's it! - their first rule is 'do no harm', what a concept!] .... time will tell, but it would appear possible that down the road there will be grounds for you granting me that your Rule by PNAC is not working so well either ..... hope i'm wrong on that, better to lose an argument than quality of life, but it's looking that way, and it probably will until US nationals in general listen less to the Wolfowitzes and Rumsfelds and more to the Bilows and Rogerses ... we shall see .... cheers |
