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To: Fred Levine who wrote (70468)	7/16/2003 5:08:49 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) of 70976

What are you talking about, Fred? Are you incapable of thinking in abstract terms? Of discussing general outlines with regards to implications? Here is my sentence: I don't agree that a country or several countries should have the right (let alone the obligation) to remove the head of a sovereign country because they don't agree with his way of government What is your answer to this? DO other countries have the RIGHT and/or OBLIGATION to remove the head of a SOVEREIGN country because they don't agree with his way of government? If you answer YES to the above question, are you aware of the implications in the international arena, notably, that it paves the way for any number of countries, or even a single one, to attack the head of another sovereign state, through assassination or all-out invasion, because they find his government to be too brutal/unjust/undemocratic/unruly/... ??? THAT is what we are talking about. You are trying to cloud the issue with "gassing of innocent children" etc. Of course my heart burns when I see gassed children lying in their dead mothers' arms. BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE WE ARE DISCUSSING. Do you understand that? The question is a serious one. You have to use a bit more than emotional non-sequiturs to debate it. If you can finally bring yourself to debate this issue with your brain rather than your bleeding heart (1) answer the question above, then do address the issues of (2) myriad brutal leaders in this world (why oh why nobody is going after them? and what will the world be like if they are all attacked OR feel they might be attacked?) (3) many people are concerned with Bush's aggressive stance & the way he is limiting the liberties of Americans, so would you say it is OK for other countries to collaborate in "getting" Bush? Where do you draw the line? Please look up the word "sovereignty" before you answer to any of the above. I say this because you seem unfamiliar with the term, as indicated by your references to "criminals should be punished" etc.

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