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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: TimF who wrote (70863)7/23/2003 6:42:38 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (3) of 82486
 
When I say there is absolute morality I am simply saying some things are wrong, and they are still wrong no matter what anyone else thinks. If you agree with that idea you still have a long way to go in terms of determining what is moral and immoral, and why and how.

I woke up this morning thinking about that. Egad. The obvious response to that is "Karen, get a life." Still...

I agree that some things are just plain wrong. I think murder is just plain wrong. And having sex with a child. And torture. I don't want to hear what NAMBLA thinks about it. It's just plain wrong. Other things, such as sex outside of marriage or stealing from the rich to give to the poor are debatable. And debated and debated. Debated here, even. Some would say that sex outside of marriage and stealing are absolutely wrong, as well as murder, etc. Is that just their opinion? Are the just-plain-wrongs just my opinion? Or your opinion? Or society's opinion?

What is the determinant for what is what I'm calling just plain wrong or you're calling absolutely wrong? Is is some societal threshold? Or many individual opinions of what the societal threshold is? Or is there some standard external to society, which is what Jewel was arguing? I think that's what this discussion is about, not whether the morality of some stuff is beyond debate.
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