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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: SI Bob who wrote (430306)7/24/2003 2:48:01 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (3) of 769667
 
I do not understand how stating what one believes to be true is ever a violation of the TOU

The individual cnyndwllr made this statement that is false.
" This is especially true when the speaker has ADMITTED the error of the statement." #reply-19120771

This is the PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH thread. The discussion in the dialog was about assertions that PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH had lied.

In that the above statement is false. I cannot see how asking this question is any kind of a violation.

"Why do lie and say the statements were admitted to be in error." That is poor grammar but it is a legitimate question for someone who has just stated what I believe to be totally false mis-statement to support a libelous assertion made by others or oneself about PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH.

And if in fact cnyndwllr has spent a lot time motor mouthing and using torturous logic to continue to attempt to make what I see as a stupid proffer and tops that off with completely false statements.

Then I see my observation of the intellectual capability of cnyndwllr to be honest sincere and civil.

Logically when anyone presents false information they have missed the true facts. And when someone spends as much time as cnyndwllr on what I see as secondary logic and misses all the primary logic and true facts. This observation seem very reasonable. "honest sincere and civil."

"You are showing again that cnyndwllr is just another shallow dim witted thinker who thinks he's smart or cnyndwllr is smarter than that and just another liar."

Once cnyndwllr had posted a gross falsehood there was little else to focus on.

The question was very simply, Was the message the messenger?

"And a liar who get's caught is just showing how dumb he is." Is a general third person truth and not an attack.
I have in numerous posts used this wisdom to opine that clinton is the stupidest president that ever was.

"It's not often two post reveals so much about a person." Is also a very true statement and not an attack. I was in fact surprised that in two posts cnyndwllr has gone from just using poor logic to making flat out false statements that demonstrated the visceral spin to libel of PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH in the media.

And in that cnyndwllr later reported he did report what I said as some TOU violation and did not come back and dispute my statements, then he may or may not have seen the logic and truth of what I had said in plain and simple terms.

Saying what you believe to be true is civil, sincere and most of all honest. That is the summary of the proper use of the TOU of SI that I understood.

If one believes a message or because the message is the thinking of the messengers, saying one thinks that the message is stupid or idiotic is not an attack or insult or name calling. The observation is correct or incorrect and how other judge it to be correct or incorrect reflects on their own credibility.

It's an opinion.

In that you choose to "address this one publicly." It implies that I was not honest or sincere or civil. And I cannot see your logic.
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