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To: Solon who wrote (71098)	7/30/2003 1:22:12 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) of 82486

"Do you believe that moral "ideals" or "Absolutes" originated apart from humanity, or do you believe they are of human origin? As I have stated r.r.r.r.r.repeatedly this question is beyond the parameters of the issue I have been discussing. I don't consider it an either/or question in any event. You apparently can't comprehend that and so you may be stuck. However, your question has only to do with the supernatural buggieman you compulsively see behind every bush. It has no other claim to the context of this discussion. Beliefs in origins is another argument. My arguement has been that moral ideals exist. They exist in an absolute form across time and culture. They have not evolved since the small children of one culture are able to recognize them in the same way as the small children of a distant culture. They are good/bad only in reference to human endeavor, which is unique from the perspective of each and every human being. Those absolutes are associated with human endeavor and they are perceivable in our experience as such. The term that I have used to represent this phenomenon is "enmeshment."

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