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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: michael97123 who wrote (112031)8/20/2003 1:29:07 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Aw now michael, that is nowhere near anything i've said, you're having that problem with distinguishing again ... never has anyone said 'nation of thieves' ... that Israel is a 'thieving nation' can be argued, and is regularly, but this refers to the actions of the nation as a whole, while 'nation of thieves' connotes that each and every individual in the nation is a thief, not a likely thing at all ..... as for calling Bush a warmonger, well i hope i've used less common terms for it, that's not the big deal though, rather it is the unilateral dictating nature of his monging that is the problem ... there is a time for war, it is when you have a quorum of independent democracies beside you, agreeing on the warplan, and more importantly the plan of occupation, and sharing the burden in blood and treasure .... this requires listening, a thing of which the Bush regime is incapable it appears, so don't hold your breath waiting for the Rest of Us to hand them a cover of legitimacy now, that sort of behaviour must not be encouraged

It is easy to imagine that you feel angry .... can you imagine how you would feel were you one of the indigenous of Palestine, looking through some israeli fence and seeing the home from which you were kicked out by these people who came across the sea and wanted your land, and you can name dozens of your fellows killed by these people ..... would that make you a little angry? ... it just might, eh

You've got to take the Whacken out of the Whackenstaat, amigo .... one bunch of religious nutcases taking the lands of another bunch of religious nutcases is just not going to get a free pass on robbery and bulldozing people's houses and murder, uh-uh, things don't work that way ..... any state with a designed preference for one religion is going to have problems on the lands of another religion, and it won't get a lot of cheering from the Rest of Us ... far better it would be to realise this and turn the project toward inclusive and egalitarian goals .... note that you yourself live in a nation with such aspirations, ahem
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