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To: Secret_Agent_Man who wrote (256908)8/20/2003 8:45:53 PM
From: JD  Read Replies (3) of 436258
 
If I might poke in here, the key word in Haim's quote is 'indiscriminately'. The unfortunate civilians who died in Iraq were not targets, there were great efforts made to limit such casualties. Whereas in Israel any & all citizens are targets...

You just posted a very nice Ron Paul quote...I suggest you take a look at the site linked at the bottom of this page and read enough until you understand the source and 'foundation' of his philosophy.

You wrote: "dont cry for one set of women and children, cry for them all"

Even though we mourn the deaths of innocent 'women & children' all over, one must be very careful in how you respond to the situation which caused those deaths...most 'aid' to Africa & Middle East just ends up enriching those despots who are denying basic freedoms to their citizens. The folks at the Ann Rand institute have summed up the situation better than I could:

No Moral Equality Between Israel and Its Enemies

"Israel and those who attack it are not moral equals. Israel is a free, Westernized country, which recognizes the individual rights of its citizens (such as their right to property and freedom of speech). It uses military force only in self-defense, in order to protect itself.
Those attacking Israel, by contrast, are terrorist organizations, theocracies, dictatorships and would-be-dictators. They do not recognize the individual rights of their own subjects, much less those of the citizens of Israel. They initiate force indiscriminately in order to retain and expand their power. In contrast to the state of Israel, such organizations and regimes have no moral right to exist.
Fundamentally, Israel is the target of these organizations and regimes precisely because of its virtues: it is an oasis of freedom and prosperity in a desert of tyranny and stagnation..."

..."Like America's war against the Taliban and al-Queda, the Arab - Israeli dispute is a conflict between opposing philosophies. On the one side are the forces of mysticism, medieval tribalism, dictatorship - and terror; on the other side are the forces of reason, individualism, capitalism - and civilization."


"and be afraid of a gov. that only reports what they deem to be newsworthy and in their own self interest..."

I know you were referring to the US in this quote, and I agree that we have lost many of our freedoms these past few years - and I know that to get balanced reporting on many issues, it is best to read an 'offshore' source like the BBC rather than just sit and watch 'Faux' news...but if you want to see real censorship, just visit any of the 12th century Kingdoms that make up most of the M.E. Although if you decide to visit Saudi Arabia, you better go soon as it is starting to appear that the House of Fraud...er, Saud may not be around too much longer.

Thanks for the Ron Paul quote, Jerry
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