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Politics : The Castle

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To: tejek who wrote (1908)8/21/2003 10:23:48 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) of 7936
 
" As Liam Reid reported, the Irish Council for Civil Liberties has warned Catholic bishops that distributing the Vatican's latest statement on homosexuality could lead to prosecution under the 1989 Incitement to Hatred Act, and a six-month jail term."

Sounds like a possibly enforceable threat to me. And even if it isn't actually enforced threats of prosecution have the effect of controlling people.

Ad for the "homosexuality is not something to be applauded" I don't think that public employers should enforce was should be applauded on the employees own time. Also he was punished specifically for something he didn't do, but the fact that it was possible that he might do at a future time. Would you like it if your employer suspended you for a month without pay because they thought you might do something bad in the future?

People have been taken to court for saying "Nigger" in public.

That's also wrong.

My understanding is that it is a crime to discriminate against any minority.

It's not a crime in the US, and shouldn't be a crime anywhere, to say negative things about minorities.

And why is necessary to express a negative opinion against a minority?

Most things we do are not necessary, do you want to have a situation where government or your employer can prevent you from doing anything that's not necessary?

You don't have to applaud what someone says to recognize that they have a right to say it.

Yes, in some jurisdictions its against the law for gays to have sex with each other.

1 - I am on the record as being against these laws.

2 - These laws have been pretty much struck down by a recent supreme court decision.

3 - What does this have to do with my comment? - " The title also fits because if people live in the jurisdiction where some of these laws are in force they could be suspended, fired, or even imprisoned for reading certain sections of the Bible out loud." Isn't that also - "no one's business but the people involved."?

we've been an independent, secular nation for over 200 years and this sucker wants to turn us into a theocracy.

No one I've ever read on the subject has provided any evidence that he wants to turn us in to a theocracy. Also that isn't a defense of the actions I am condemning. Even if he does want to turn us in to a theocracy it doesn't change the fact that the actions I condemned are outrageous, extreme, and wrong.

And while we're at it, I am sick and tired of all the phony speed traps in the South set up to generate income for some of the small towns. Its disgusting and offensive.

You think I like them, or that conservatives in general like them, or that they are limited to the south? These are money grabs, examples of greedy government. Something conservatives, and esp. libertarians protest against all the time.

So if you want to complain......let me prepare my list and you prepare yours.........and then we can go thru them item by item.

Get back to me when your lists includes people getting prison terms speech.

Tim
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