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Politics : Middle East Politics

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (4004)8/23/2003 7:51:26 PM
From: Machaon  Read Replies (2) of 6945
 
You wrote:<font color=blue>"It is my belief that the only way to achieve peace is to integrate the concept of separation of church and state into the minds of these religious fanatics on both sides ... "<font color=black>

Good luck with getting that done. We are still fighting that battle in the U.S.

You wrote:<font color=blue>" ... and to disolve away all this ancient fantasy of divine right and holy jhiadic nonsense that the Jew is just as culpable in his doctrine as the Arab."<font color=black>

I am not clear as to what you are saying. I am a atheistic Zionist. I don't feel that the land of Israel belongs to Jews because it was given to them by God. Jews lived throughout the Middle East, the same as the Armenians. The Muslims butchered the Armenians and drove large numbers of Armenians from the homes of their fathers, and then the Muslims drove the Jews from the homes of their fathers, but the Jews had a place to go, ... to Palestine, or what it is now called, Israel. It is not fair to say that the Muslims/Arabs can steal Armenians homes and drive them out and then steal Jews homes and drive them out, and then deny any land in the Middle East to the Jewish victims. It has nothing to do with God.

You wrote:<font color=blue>"The point I was making in posting that article ... Raed Abdel-Hamed Masq , ... neurotic belief that he was somehow "matriculating " to some higher plane of existence by carrying out such an act ..."<font color=black>

I got your point. It is hard to fight an enemy that worships death.

You wrote:<font color=blue>"Israel has done a bit of child killing too ..."<font color=black>

I get angry when someone tries to equate the victims of Israel, while defending itself, to the victims of the terrorists, who are deliberately targeted. Just this week Israel broke up a Jewish cell that was targeting Palestinian civilians. Israel continually stops small cells of Jews from organized attacks against Palestinian citizens. Most of the time the members of the Jewish cells are brothers or sons or fathers of victims of terrorism.

When was the last time the the PA broke up a terrorist group that was targeting Israelis?

You wrote:<font color=blue>"Of course we are no shining example of life expertly lived here either , having the largest percent of human beings behind prison walls here in this country ..."<font color=black>

Muslim countries cut off the hands of thieves, or kill them, so they don't have to jail them. Americans demand a certain amount of security. Mexico jails fewer criminals, but in Mexico the middle class must have high walls and barbed wire around their homes.

Where do you want our criminals, in jail or in our streets?

You wrote:<font color=blue>"WE have young men and women there now who are also "martyring" themselves in our own forces , lets all remember."<font color=black>

The difference is that our sons and daughters are dying in the defense of others, and to make this a better world, while the Muslim terrorists are dying during the slaughter of innocents. A world of difference. Once again, it's not fair to equate the two.

You wrote:<font color=blue>" ...into some more modern rational and hopefully tolerant liveable and sustainable open~border free-trading democratic peoples ..."<font color=black>

Not in our lifetime. The terrorist and criminal groups are too wealthy and too numerous and Europe, among other regions, does not have the resolve or backbone to take a stand.
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