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Pastimes : SI vs. iHub - Battle of the Boards Part 2

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To: SI Bob who wrote (4598)8/25/2003 10:41:50 PM
From: Bux   of 5315
 
Ihub is still trying to censor reasonable content.

Today I posted the post included near the bottom and it was immediately deleted by Matt without explanation. I know Matt had taken offense previously when I claimed that TelecomTechStocks.com was full of "hype" so I edited the post (I keep copies of all my Ihub posts since Matt tends to hold me to a tighter standard than the IDCC bulls) and removed all reference to "hype" with regard to TelecomTechStocks.

Having "cleaned up" my post I reposted it since I believe my analysis of this mornings price drop was important for other investors to be aware of. That post was immediately deleted and my account was suspended on the spot, again, without explanation.

I wrote a polite e-mail to Matt asking why the account that I had purchased was suspended. He told me it was because I had reposted something he deleted and because my post was trying to piss off Jim and the rest of the board.

I informed him that I had not reposted it until I had edited out the part I thought he took offense to and that I was not trying to piss anyone off, I was providing an explanation for the sudden price drop this morning. Read the two "offensive" posts below and make up your own minds.

His response was to swear at me "Bull####" and said my post was "lined" with things like "fearless leader" and "come clean". Now this really threw me for a loop because Jim has often been referred to as the "fearless leader" of IDCC longs and "come clean" is just one way to say that Jim finally admitted to dumping all his IDCC stock back in July but didn't publicly admit it until Saturday night. That was quite a shock for many IDCC longs considering that he has single-handedly done more than anyone else to bring IDCC into the public eye, first by starting the IDCC thread right here on SI back in 1996, then Raging Bull, then the Clubhouse and finally, over on Ihub. He has helped fund the cost of running TelecomTechStocks.com and has been an endless source of inspiration for those who believe IDCC will rapidly grow into a telecom powerhouse and bring instant wealth to IDCC longs. So, when Jim sells all his IDCC shares and admits it publicly, I think that is a topic of interest to anyone who first heard of IDCC through his efforts, which is just about everyone who reads the Ihub IDCC thread and many who do not.

In any case, it's clear that Matt has no ability to moderate without letting his emotions interfere. As an example, below are two posts that I brought to the attention of Matt soon after they were posted and yet he took absolutely no action against these authors, their accounts were not suspended and the posts were not deleted:


"Posted by: sophist
In reply to: 0nceinalifetime who wrote msg# 41253 Date:8/15/2003 12:59:55 PM
Post #of 41977

ONCE: Why are your views so worthless, meriting no respect? Let me try to explain: You remind me of someone who makes a bet based upon the flipping of a coin as follows. Every time the coin is flipped, you say "it will come up tails". A thousand flips later, you have said "tails" every time. Now sometimes you may have "guessed" correctly but that "guess" was not based on any principle of "knowledge". Your analysis is so simplistic (if not simple minded) that it amounts to no more than "guessing" tails all the time in a coin toss game.

Of course, with respect to IDCC, your game is similar but even worse, as you predictably and SELECTIVELY pick the facts to support only a narrow one-sided and negative point of view. This is so moronic and simplistic a game you play that paying attention to your views is a guaranteed waste of time. You may counter by saying there are posters who present ONLY a one-sided positive view, but I am not aware of them, as even the most positive investors here try to be aware of the risks, bring industry news to the board, and engage those who present a more or less balanced perspective. It is the unshakeable consistency of your one-sided negative views, with their predictable unbalanced selectivity and bias, combined with the absence of any redeeming new or creative analysis or contribution to any understanding of IDCC, and the way you so often present your OPINIONS in a mocking and condescending tone, that makes your OPINIONS so utterly worthless and irrelevant."


and:

"Posted by: amrwonderful
In reply to: None Date:8/13/2003 9:30:28 PM
Post #of 41977

BTW, Mr. 0, you have lost your touch, you are getting old, and you are lacking knowledge...your comments are non-sensical. You need to spend some more time with the fish...that way, you need to be quiet."


And now the post that got my account suspended follows. First there is the original post that was deleted and following it is the "cleaned up" post where I removed everything I could think of that Matt may have found offensive. I even decided not to call the IDCC company picnic "silly" in case Matt found that offensive:

"Posted by: 0nceinalifetimeIn reply to: jjff who wrote msg# 41894 Date:8/25/2003 11:17:14 AMPost # of 41905

The announcement by IDCC investors "fearless leader" JimLur that he has finally sold out of all of his holdings a few weeks ago may be more to blame for the recent price drop than the filing that is due today or any silly company picnic.

Yes, that's right, JimLur, the same guy who started the Silicon Investor IDCC disscussion board, the Raging Bull IDCC Discussion Board, the Raging Bull IDCC Clubhouse Board and the ihub IDCC discussion Board. These are the boards where the IDCC pie-in-the-sky story has been told to unsuspecting new investors time and time again. This is the same guy who supported and helped fund the IDCC hype site "Telecomtechstocks.com" and the same guy who said he believed IDCC would soon reach $100/share and was planning for the big shareholder party in Houston, TX and the same guy who is listed in early IDC SEC filings. Now he has sold out of IDCC, nada, zip! If that doesn't move a stock like IDCC, I don't know what would.

I guess he finally got the price he felt the shares were worth! But he didn't tell his "IDCC friends" that he had no position until weeks later. Personally, I post public announcements as soon as I buy and/or sell IDCC because I believe it is impossible to maintain integrity by announcing it weeks later. What better way to determine what a poster actually believes than to look at whether he puts his money where his mouth is.

I predict Jim will take a token position soon (now that the price has dropped) to help deflect criticism that he has no position. Some of you may interpret my post as a personal attack but I think it is important for every potential IDCC investor to know the actions of those who have been most instrumental in bringing IDCC into the public eye and there is no doubt that JimLur has been one of the most tireless promoters of IDCC ever. If not for his actions of bringing this tiny company into the eye of private investors, many of you may not have ever heard of IDCC and therefore his recent admission that he sold out some time ago is very significant for all the investors who purchased IDCC based on his knowledge.

Jim, I think it's commendable that you have finally come clean on this issue. Better late than never."


And the edited version where I removed the reference to TelecomTechStocks being "hype":

"Posted by: 0nceinalifetime
In reply to: None Date:8/25/2003 1:38:11 PM
Post #of 41934

The announcement by IDCC investors "fearless leader" JimLur that he has finally sold out of all of his holdings a few weeks ago may be more to blame for the recent price drop than the legal filing that is due today or any silly company picnic. Yes, that's right, JimLur, the same guy who started the Silicon Investor IDCC disscussion board, the Raging Bull IDCC Discussion Board, the Raging Bull IDCC Clubhouse Board and the ihub IDCC discussion Board. These are the boards where the IDCC pie-in-the-sky story has been told to unsuspecting new investors time and time again. This is the same guy who supported and helped fund the IDCC site "Telecomtechstocks.com" designed to increase interest in IDCC and the same guy who said he believed IDCC would soon reach $100/share and was planning for the big shareholder party in Houston, TX and the same guy who is listed in early IDC SEC filings. Now he has sold out of IDCC, nada, zip! If that doesn't move a stock like IDCC, I don't know what would.

I guess he finally got the price he felt the shares were worth! But he didn't tell his "IDCC friends" that he had no position until weeks later. Personally, I post public announcements as soon as I buy and/or sell IDCC because I believe it is impossible to maintain integrity by announcing it weeks later. What better way to determine what a poster actually believes than to look at whether he puts his money where his mouth is.

I predict Jim will take a token position soon (now that the price has dropped) to help deflect criticism that he has no position.

Some of you may interpret my post as a personal attack but I think it is important for every potential IDCC investor to know the actions of those who have been most instrumental in bringing IDCC into the public eye and there is no doubt that JimLur has been one of the most tireless promoters of IDCC ever. If not for his actions of bringing this tiny company into the eye of private investors, many of you may not have ever heard of IDCC and therefore his recent admission that he sold out some time ago is very significant for all the investors who purchased IDCC based on his knowledge.

Jim, I think it's commendable that you have finally come clean on this issue. Better late than never."



I think it's pretty apparent that the censorship is so strong at Ihub that posters do not know what is acceptable and what is not. Even Matt doesn't know or he would be more consistent from person to person, the above are just a few examples of many.


IMO, this is Matt's way of snuffing out posters such as myself who like to point out the fallacy of the hypesters arguments since he used to be one himself. It has no place in a forum designed to openly discuss issues that could affect ones financial future. A poster reading the "clean-up" IDCC board today may have no idea their "fearless leader" has sold every last share.

It's really quite frustrating after I spent a considerable sum for the privilege of joining Ihub and now I realize I have wasted the subscription money as I can only post at the whim of the 19 year old moderator who doesn't hesitate to speak to me using gutter talk as he gets his jollies off and then ends the dialogue even though I had remained pleasant and civil.

Don't make the same mistake I have.

Bux
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