SEPT 11, 2001
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[00:00] anthony >> Fibroids very common
[00:00] anthony >> home.mpinet.net
[00:00] anthony >> home.mpinet.net
[00:00] anthony >> uterus
[00:01] anthony >> MORE ..grab some popcorn ivf.com
[00:01] anthony >> so you wanna play do ya??
[00:02] ned_flanders >> here are some adhesion products for gynecological use To date, the only products specifically approved by Food and Drug Administration for use in humans are INTERCEED Barrier, made by Johnson & Johnson, an
[00:02] anthony >> anyone want to see adhesions of the cerebellum and the eye sockets
[00:02] anthony >> cant
[00:02] anthony >> they arent near each other
[00:02] anthony >> SIKE !!
[00:03] anthony >> how bout adhesion of the larynx and the patella
[00:03] anthony >> nope,
[00:03] anthony >> requires a Toyota camry
[00:03] ned_flanders >> so J&J sells INTERCEED and INTERGEL
[00:03] anthony >> ok enuff biomedical jokes
[00:04] anthony >> interceed ?
[00:04] anthony >> who sells hat
[00:04] anthony >> who sells that
[00:04] anthony >> ok i see
[00:04] anthony >> forget i asked
[00:04] ned_flanders >> johnson and johnson
[00:04] anthony >> interceed
[00:04] anthony >> j & j
[00:05] anthony >> i guess interceed
[00:06] steveh >> Tony, the report is on it's way
[00:06] +pluvia >> 6 steveh can you send that to me also at pluvia2@aol.com
[00:07] steveh >> Please note I am not an expert or even remotely involved in gynocological post surgical adhesion
[00:07] steveh >> It is just my opinion/interpretation of the situation.
[00:07] +pluvia >> 6 no problem steve
[00:07] anthony >> samg is askin the Chief of OB GYN tomorrow
[00:07] steveh >> In the end I agree with Tony, they will get approval for political correctness
[00:08] steveh >> at a minimum.
[00:08] steveh >> Pluvia, it's on its way.
[00:08] anthony >> his initial reaction is that the effectiveness of LCBM gel wont be known for 10 -15 years
[00:08] +pluvia >> 6 thanks
[00:10] steveh >> That's another very good point Tony. I did not bring that up in my analysis.
[00:10] anthony >> he also says ( im on phone iwth im now)
[00:10] steveh >> Intergel type products often get approved for that reason. It may take to long to perform a reasonable clinical study without market releasing it
[00:10] anthony >> if fda approves it
[00:11] anthony >> insurance will not pay
[00:11] steveh >> thus if it can be demonstrated to be safe and has anecdotal or some type of efficacy, it can still gain approval.
[00:11] steveh >> I disagree
[00:11] anthony >> he says they will not pay
[00:11] steveh >> If it is reasonably priced and comparable to other products, insurance sompanies will probably pay
[00:12] steveh >> hmmm, he probably knows more about than I do then
[00:12] anthony >> he wil know more
[00:12] anthony >> tomorrow
[00:12] steveh >> But I bet you can find a code to charge it under that get's reimbursed
[00:12] anthony >> yes u can
[00:12] steveh >> there are many ways to skin the reimbursement cat
[00:12] anthony >> since j & j sells something
[00:12] anthony >> like it
[00:12] anthony >> but again we have crappy sales
[00:13] steveh >> yup
[00:13] steveh >> and no strong evidence that it is really better than existing products
[00:13] ned_flanders >> about $200 for the procedure
[00:13] anthony >> who cares
[00:13] steveh >> I wonder how that compares to other products?
[00:14] anthony >> it is garabage
[00:14] anthony >> im sure its the same
[00:14] steveh >> I know that ringers solution is a lot cheaper. ;-)
[00:15] steveh >> tony, I am serious about publishing my analysis. It is just a quick report on a few documents that I read at the FDA site.
[00:15] anthony >> adhesion is directly related to the amount of bleeding in a procedure
[00:15] steveh >> If it's not worthwhile, please don't feel compelled to distribute it. thanks
[00:15] anthony >> the greatre the blood flow the adhesions will be greater
[00:15] steveh >> which makes sense
[00:15] anthony >> u can be completly sterilized by adhesion
[00:15] steveh >> more damage, more blood, more healing, more opportunity for adhesion
[00:16] anthony >> you can have enough blood so that it destroys the ability to have kids
[00:17] anthony >> the increase in infection can result in greater latent adhesion
[00:17] anthony >> so its all bullshit
[00:17] anthony >> basically
[00:17] anthony >> lcbm is a turd
[00:17] steveh >> Are you a doctor? Why the heck did I do any research???
[00:17] anthony >> LOL
[00:17] anthony >> no
[00:17] steveh >> you know way more about this stuff than I do.
[00:17] anthony >> im not
[00:19] steveh >> everyone else must be sleeping
[00:20] steveh >> I do think they can pump the stock price with an approval. I don't believe all the upside is built in yet.
[00:20] deemo27 >> all that matters is what happens to the price of this cream stock
[00:20] steveh >> but I've already started a position in the low 9s
[00:20] steveh >> small position
[00:21] anthony >> i think approval is built in
[00:21] steveh >> very small compared to you guys
[00:22] steveh >> I think we pop again when the PR comes out stating they gained approval.
[00:22] steveh >> maybe not much but we pop
[00:22] anthony >> it will sell thenb
[00:22] anthony >> it will sell then
[00:22] steveh >> If they don't get approval in 6 weeks, its a death blow
[00:22] anthony >> they will get it i promise
[00:22] steveh >> yes after the pop it will sell for sure
[00:22] steveh >> probably alot of options that are vested sitting out there
[00:23] anthony >> it will pop on the approval
[00:23] anthony >> and before
[00:23] steveh >> I'm waiting for 11s to add
[00:24] steveh >> whoa, it's late
[00:24] steveh >> gotta get some sleep
[00:24] steveh >> have a good evening Tony and everyone else who is still with us
[00:24] petewitt >> nite S
[00:24] anthony >> u 2 pal
[00:25] syklee >> I got some LCBM, afraid of no borrows at higher price since this will be good in a few months
[00:27] syklee >> this junk should bounce just on its own and fall on its own, shouldn't be up with market rallies
[00:32] goshortu >> hows the ankle tony
[00:49] anthony >> bigger than a basketball
[00:50] goshortu >> damn well soak it in cash and take 2 asprin
[01:41] Charlie_Meadows>> sell the news
[07:50] +SEAN007 >> 07:48 ET Salomon Cuts Telecom : Salomon Smith Barney downgrades the following telecom equipment companies (price target changes in parentheses): to OUTPERFORM from Buy: PMCS (50 to 32); to NEUTRAL from Buy: V
[08:01] cubsfan >> x
[08:05] ogm >> RFMD gapping up again
[08:05] ogm >> I'm hitting some at 24
[08:09] nico >> Nokia (NOK 13.75) reaffirms EPS guidance, but warns on the top line. Demand is showing signs of picking up in the US.
[08:09] ogm >> NOK is always full of it
[08:10] ogm >> NOK management lies almost like INTC
[08:10] +rhansen >> morning all
[08:10] +SEAN007 >> good morning
[08:10] ogm >> However that said, at 13 bucks NOK is cheap
[08:10] ogm >> good morning, rh
[08:10] +rhansen >> who is this twit on cnbc comparing the economy to michal jordan?
[08:11] +SEAN007 >> mike coming back!
[08:11] nico >> new cnbc chief economist
[08:11] ogm >> New ?
[08:11] +rhansen >> yes sean
[08:11] nico >> yup
[08:11] ogm >> Did they sack Kudlow finaly ?
[08:11] +rhansen >> amazing, isnt it nico
[08:11] nico >> lol
[08:12] +rhansen >> yes ogm, and they replaced him with his kid sister
[08:12] ogm >> :)
[08:12] ogm >> Looks like stuff is gapping up this am
[08:12] ogm >> I'm betting on gap and crap
[08:12] bond1 >> any numbers coming out this mroning
[08:12] +rhansen >> barbi kudlow
[08:12] bond1 >> morning
[08:13] +rhansen >> nothing of importance bond
[08:13] nico >> no eco numbers today
[08:14] ogm >> XLNX has reiterated guidance last night
[08:14] +SEAN007 >> 08:13 ET Matrix Pharm (MATX) 6.79: FDA panel voted unanimously that, based on a standard approval scenario, company not demonstrated substantial evidence that IntraDose Injectable Gel is safe and effective in
[08:15] ogm >> What a crappy guidance for a 12.5 bil market cap company
[08:15] nico >> According to the Wall Street Journal, Amazon will partner with Target (TGT 32.20) to sell goods over the Internet...
[08:15] ogm >> I'm selling XLNX here in the 36s
[08:15] +rhansen >> amzn is looking for target to help it sell stuff?:)
[08:15] anthony >> when amazon partners with starnet and gets into gambling ill buy it
[08:16] bond1 >> 3 thx nico
[08:16] bond1 >> and rhan
[08:16] nico >> yw Sir
[08:17] +rhansen >> nico copied me, but he did this "no numbers" thing
[08:17] +rhansen >> re: fedex commercial;)
[08:18] +rhansen >> well i lost everyone on that one
[08:21] anthony >> what are futures doing
[08:21] +SEAN007 >> +18
[08:21] anthony >> thnx
[08:32] +Crav >> -- REFR's False 'News' Story Exposed, Reports Asensio & Company, Inc. --
[08:32] +Crav >> asensio puts out news on REFR
[08:36] Henk >> does anyone know PSSI it has been going to almost $9 was 3 a year ago and is a POS according to CharleyMeadows a year ago?
[08:38] anthony >> a POS with 7,000 employees??
[08:42] thefish >> The Motorola Accompli 009 will be the first device to offer the "exact same solution as the RIM," with Rogers AT&T Wireless -- a Canadian carrier currently supporting the RIM device -- being the first carrier to
[08:42] thefish >> He said the Motorola device has the potential to "undermine the revenue model for RIM" because currently RIM is paid $7 to $10 per month per user on a network's system -- a large part of how RIM expects to make m
[08:43] thefish >> Motient and Rogers hate having to pay RIM 25% of their monthly revenues. They would like to get it for less," said Mr. Hugh Sam, who learned of Motorola's plans through a source that wishes to remain anonymous.
[08:43] DMG >> 08:40 ET SoundView Cuts Telecom : Hearing from sources at SoundView Technology that the firm is downgrading several telecom equipment names this morning: JDSU to HOLD from Strong Buy, sees downside risk to $4-5.50
[08:44] thefish >> that news is in toronto paper
[08:44] thefish >> TORONTO (Reuters) - Motorola Inc. (NYSE:MOT - news) is poised to launch a product that could deal a deadly blow to Research In Motion Ltd.'s (Nasdaq:RIMM - news) position as the sole maker of an always on, e-mai
[08:49] ogm >> Futures dumoping
[08:49] ogm >> why ?
[08:49] ogm >> Futres red
[08:49] petewitt >> ?
[08:49] ogm >> What just happend ?
[08:49] petewitt >> wtf
[08:49] thefish >> DJN: *DJ Airplane Hits NYC's World Financial Center - Witness
[08:50] bond1 >> 3 no way
[08:50] anthony >> whatg??
[08:50] bond1 >> 3 our bldg just shook
[08:50] thefish >> look at TV
[08:51] petewitt >> holt sh@t
[08:51] bond1 >> 3 we can see it
[08:51] bond1 >> 3 holy shit
[08:51] Kris >> plane...or bomb?
[08:51] thefish >> guess folks closed positions before exiting
[08:51] bond1 >> 3 this wild
[08:51] anthony >> PLane crahses into World Trade Center in NY!
[08:51] bond1 >> AHAHAHAHAHAHA
[08:51] bond1 >> 3 SMOKE AND PAPER
[08:51] bond1 >> ENGINES
[08:51] Kris >> futures back up
[08:51] petewitt >> its almost 8:00 there bad news
[08:51] anthony >> small plane or big one?
[08:51] +pluvia >> 6 please place the mask firmly over your face
[08:51] Jetups >> almost 9 :00
[08:52] harryj >> cnn has the opposite angle
[08:52] anthony >> bIG PLANE OR TINY ONE?
[08:52] tjrideout >> man that looks bad
[08:52] Jetups >> tony, look at that ...it looks big
[08:52] Jetups >> ?
[08:52] bond1 >> 3 AP CALL ME
[08:52] anthony >> I AM TOO LAZY TO TURN ON tv
[08:52] bond1 >> 3 MUST TOOK OUT FLOORS
[08:52] Jetups >> aahh
[08:52] +pluvia >> 6 gotta figger the plane hit then fell to ground
[08:52] bond1 >> 3 PAPAERS FLYING ALL OVER
[08:53] d2 >> stunning
[08:53] anthony >> BOND SAYS ITS LIKE A TICKET TAPE PARADE
[08:53] thefish >> finally cnbc gets the correct visual of this years markets LOL
[08:53] +pluvia >> 6 fish lol
[08:53] Jetups >> cnn suggests a jet liner
[08:53] anthony >> THIS ISNT A GOOD OMEN FOR THE MARKET'
[08:54] +ACS_101 >> CNN said it was a twin engine jet looking like a 737
[08:54] anthony >> I THINK THE PILOT WAS GOIN TO VISIT MARIA FLAPPARONI
[08:54] +pluvia >> 6 wonder if a public company owns those buildings
[08:54] +pluvia >> 6 wonder who insures them
[08:54] d2 >> quit the jokes
[08:54] bond1 >> 3 YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THE STREET
[08:54] d2 >> unless you are sure no one was hurt, which is highly unlikely
[08:55] Kris >> obviously someone thought it was a bomb...futures dropped like a rock pretty fast
[08:55] anthony >> 80 TH FLOOR HIT BY JETLINER
[08:55] bond1 >> 3 TOTAL CHAOS
[08:55] anthony >> 80 TH FLOOR HIT BY JETLINER
[08:55] anthony >> 80 TH FLOOR HIT BY JETLINER
[08:55] Jetups >> bond, it has to be horrific down there
[08:55] petewitt >> jet sh@t
[08:55] Jetups >> streets are packed at this time of day
[08:55] anthony >> are futures still up?
[08:55] thefish >> yes
[08:55] cowboybob >> say your prayers for the people inside
[08:55] anthony >> well they wont be for long
[08:55] petewitt >> back up now
[08:56] bond1 >> 3 DOWNTOWN IS IN PANIC
[08:56] anthony >> \i hope the plane was empty
[08:56] Kris >> kamakazi pilot....with an agenda
[08:56] Jetups >> empty?
[08:56] +pluvia >> 6 sprinkler system looks like it's not working very well
[08:56] petewitt >> man this is horrible
[08:56] bond1 >> 3 I BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND THIS IS REAL BAD
[08:56] thefish >> sprinkler not too effective on jet fuel
[08:56] nico >> wow Bond
[08:56] +pluvia >> 6 them is some big ass flames
[08:57] Jetups >> it's growing like mad
[08:57] JP_Trapper >> honk0gyp
[08:57] JP_Trapper >> oops
[08:57] +pluvia >> 6 wow
[08:57] Mark_Leh >> Fish, I doubt that it's jet fuel. Probably avgas. Worse from a fire standpoint.
[08:57] thefish >> good point
[08:57] JP_Trapper >> rhan can you delete that line
[08:57] +pluvia >> 6 avgas?
[08:58] thefish >> from eating too many soy beans pluvia
[08:58] thefish >> :)
[08:58] +pluvia >> 6 mark is that a type of jet fuel
[08:58] +pluvia >> 6 holy crap
[08:58] Mark_Leh >> Pluvia, avgas is like filtered auto fuel, much more volatile than jet fuel, which is basically kerosene.
[08:58] petewitt >> must be Mark its burning like crazy
[08:59] Kris >> pluv...did steveh send you that LCBM report....or is it in GD anywhere??
[08:59] thefish >> brutal
[08:59] petewitt >> must have been full of fuel
[08:59] petewitt >> pouring down 9 to 10 floors
[08:59] +pluvia >> 6 I think it's in gd
[09:00] d2 >> nope
[09:00] d2 >> Tony, post steve's report please
[09:00] bond1 >> 3 this is worse than the fiorst trade problems
[09:00] d2 >> only sword's is there
[09:00] bond1 >> 3 people jumping out from window
[09:00] petewitt >> plane is inside building
[09:00] JP_Trapper >> bond I sure hope this is not the same as the first problem
[09:00] nico >> wow
[09:00] bond1 >> 3 worse than foirst
[09:01] bond1 >> 3 going outside now
[09:01] JP_Trapper >> no, I meant terrorist
[09:01] Jetups >> so many people are at work already, too bad it wasn't 2 hrs earlier
[09:01] +pluvia >> 6 why would a plane in trouble be int his area
[09:01] nico >> scary shit
[09:01] +pluvia >> 6 seems more likely it's a terrorist sitch
[09:01] JP_Trapper >> pluv that is a no fly area
[09:02] Kris >> pluv....exactlttttlyyy
[09:02] Jetups >> Pluvia, you have La Guardia nearby
[09:02] Kris >> no fly zone
[09:02] kenny >> just got here....what u guys talkin bout with a plane?
[09:02] thefish >> turn on cnbc if ya got it kenny, or cnn
[09:02] Jetups >> kenny , turn on a t v
[09:02] kenny >> no tv here
[09:02] +pluvia >> 6 if your plan was going down seems like you'd head for area you wouldnt kill people
[09:02] JP_Trapper >> kenny plane crashes in World Trade Center
[09:03] kenny >> wow
[09:03] JP_Trapper >> wow look at that explosion
[09:03] petewitt >> those are bombs
[09:03] Jetups >> you'd think, pluvia, unless we find out that that it was terrorist
[09:03] tjrideout >> another one just hit
[09:03] Jetups >> oh my god
[09:03] +pluvia >> 6 WOW
[09:03] kenny >> when did it happen
[09:03] JP_Trapper >> now
[09:03] kenny >> just now?
[09:03] +pluvia >> 6 looks like terrorists
[09:03] kenny >> pluv i called a couple of weeks ago
[09:04] JP_Trapper >> pluv , lets not jump the gun
[09:04] Rube >> whole bunch of QCOM went through at 14.80
[09:04] Kris >> futures dropping like a rock now
[09:04] bond1 >> 3i just saw a second plane crash into bldg
[09:04] +pluvia >> 6 holy crap
[09:04] Jetups >> BOTH towers are on fire
[09:04] ogm >> futures collapsed
[09:04] JP_Trapper >> both towers are on fire now Kenny
[09:04] anthony >> WOW
[09:04] Paid4it >> unreal
[09:04] thefish >> NO WAY
[09:04] anthony >> HOly shit!!
[09:05] +pluvia >> 6 another plane?
[09:05] petewitt >> this is insane shit
[09:05] +pluvia >> 6 jeesus
[09:05] tjrideout >> fack
[09:05] kenny >> this stuff is nuts
[09:05] anthony >> OH my godf
[09:05] JP_Trapper >> two planes hitting two towers is a terrerist act, guaranteed
[09:05] anthony >> @nd PLane crahses into World Trade Center in NY!
[09:05] anthony >> Oh my GOD this is insane
[09:05] JP_Trapper >> two different planes tony
[09:05] +SEAN007 >> Maria reports a second plane hit bld
[09:05] Paid4it >> two planes
[09:05] kenny >> were they private planes? or something bigger
[09:05] JP_Trapper >> twin engine
[09:05] Paid4it >> one in each tower
[09:05] Kris >> KAMAKAZI facker
[09:06] bond1 >> 3 marie just saw people tramped to death
[09:06] Jetups >> first one probably a jet liner
[09:06] anthony >> the wing span looks to jhave been pretty big
[09:06] Kris >> 2 planes
[09:06] nd >> This is a terrorist attack
[09:06] Kris >> nd...ya think
[09:06] anthony >> 4 absolutley a terrorist attack
[09:06] Jetups >> yes
[09:06] tjrideout >> hope they scramble some fighter jets to intercept any others
[09:06] nd >> dude, 2 planes
[09:06] bond1 >> 3 i saw the seond one with my own eyes
[09:06] JP_Trapper >> farkin sons of a beatches
[09:06] anthony >> bond wow
[09:06] kenny >> bond?
[09:06] nico >> wow
[09:06] +pluvia >> 6 the plane bond?
[09:06] Paid4it >> that was a big plane
[09:06] anthony >> look at that fire ball
[09:06] +rhansen >> what a facking shame:(
[09:06] Jetups >> tjrideout, good idea, i hope so
[09:06] Kris >> MKTS WONT OPEN TODAY
[09:06] kenny >> bond u near that area?
[09:06] harryj >> NYSE evacuated
[09:07] Paid4it >> cnn just showed the second plane
[09:07] Paid4it >> tape
[09:07] Jetups >> suggesting some sort of electronics may have put 2 planes into the towers
[09:07] anthony >> i am watching mnbc
[09:07] anthony >> msnbc
[09:07] Mark_Leh >> Bond, please pay attention. I don't know where you are, but you need to be a far enough distance so that if the second building collapses and tips over, you must be out of the way.
[09:07] Jetups >> oh my god, they just showed the plane coming in to crash
[09:08] +pluvia >> 6 good point mark
[09:08] Kris >> i'm getin goose bumps..this is VERY SERIOUS
[09:08] kenny >> jetups....they have film of the plane flyin into the building?
[09:08] anthony >> MSNBC just showed theg other plane
[09:08] anthony >> comingfrom behind
[09:08] +pluvia >> 6 what channel jet?
[09:08] nico >> yes kenny
[09:08] nd >> 209.186.105.66
[09:08] Jetups >> cnn
[09:08] +SEAN007 >> Maria interviewing eyewitness says plane didnt slow down
[09:08] kenny >> ND hanks
[09:08] kenny >> thanks
[09:08] JP_Trapper >> bond do you have your office in world trade center?
[09:09] nd >> np
[09:09] Kris >> i think bond went outside
[09:09] kenny >> Bond move WEST out here to Calif..
[09:10] thefish >> usa is at war now
[09:10] +pluvia >> 6 holy crap
[09:10] thefish >> 6 dead, 1000 injured so far
[09:10] Kris >> here we go
[09:10] +pluvia >> 6 that footage of the plane hitting in unfreaking real
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