Some interesting bits of conversation about corruption in China:
posted: 09/16/2003 10:57 AM
Reform of Administrative System
1. The function of government is to do for people what they cannot do for themselves, such as public health, environmental protection, education, defense, law and order, etc.
2. The idea of "serving the people" can make the government of the people, by the people and for the people.
3. America pays lip service to the rule of law, it becomes a corrupt game of lawyers for profit and does not serve justice - it only enriches lawyers.
4. China's rule of law must be fair, swift and cheap in serving justice.
5. There is freedom of speech in America, but the government does what the special interests want, not what the people want.
6. In seeking the public opinion the government must do what is right and good for the greatest number of people.
7. Power is inherently corrupt, so officials must be held accountable for their deeds or misdeeds.
Willie Wong
Chinese For China
member.muzi.com
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posted: 09/16/2003 11:37 AM
Prime Minister Wen is a good manager. He came up from the bottom in rural areas and he knows where all the problems are. The administrative system reform should start from the low levels first, as the worst part is at the base level where the quality of cadres just are too poor and corrupt. Many local officials like to use "I" instead of "we" when they give reports of local enterprises. They think they "own" the place like his own fiefdom. This has to change first.
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posted: 09/18/2003 02:44 AM
The Chinese from all around the globe crane their necks and hope that the new administration is brave enough to push through reforms and monitoring system to keep the cadres honest.
It is really puzzling that, after talking about it for 10 years, the law demanding that the finances of all cadres who hold government positions be laid open to the public, still cannot get passed. That, coupled with the establishment of a Hong Kong style ICAC type organization, would be a great beginning.
As for the concerns about prior infractions, there can be an amnesty period, where all disclosed prior crimes are excused if the money plus a 25% penalty are turned over to the state. All undisclosed corruption conduct would be acted upon with a vangeance thereafter. Tag on a compulsory life term for corruption involving more than $10 MM RMB. That would do wonders.
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posted: 09/18/2003 08:49 PM
China should study and adopt some proven good systems from USA and Canada but make sure not copy those unconditional rights given to greediness and also conveniencely turn the blind eyes on racially motivated crime from USA and Canada.
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posted: 09/18/2003 10:03 PM
The main reason why after so many years of reform since early 80's, there are still so many problems, bottlenecks and unreasonable laws, regulations, is because the old "tradition" or bad habits, backward thoughts are still alive and well in China. Very few have the courage to push through real reforms. PM Zhu tried his best but his efforts were very often stopped by some invisible forces which you know from whom. The two new leaders now seem to be very cautious guys, can they really push through necessary reforms in due course, remains to be seen. We all hope they can make changes for the better.
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posted: 09/20/2003 05:03 AM
It looks to me like you got screwed by a lawyer, what were you up to?
I had my home and fortune spared by 3 great lawyers that stopped a foreign outfit from forging my name and stealing my property.
I got it all back, and paid nothing, as the bad guys ( women! ) had to pay their bills, which they EARNED!
You write funny fiction.
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posted: 09/20/2003 05:14 AM
No one KNOWS what goes on at the top, only what the top tells them. So, no misdeeds ever need be punished.
Anyone who has evidence of dirt on the top dissapears,, painfully. Their family too. |
