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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank
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To: TimF who wrote (76078)10/1/2003 7:09:48 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
"I meant a proper claim as a matter of justice or natural rights not of law."

Well...that is the point. You and I don't agree on what a "proper claim" is. Therefore we defer to law which represents the grievances of all people. The law takes a dim view of discrimination on the basis of race, colour, gender, or sexual orientation. So do I. And I helped make it so.

"Sure we live in a democracy but that doesn't mean that individuals can't state their opinions and principles or even try to get laws passed supporting those ideas"

I agree.

"I would have thought that this would have gone without saying but apparently it does not."

I would have thought so, too...and I have found no evidence in any posts (other than Jewels's) to indicate otherwise.

"I do not think it makes logical sense to talk about A causing harm to B unless A actually causes something to happen to B."

Don't be silly. If I go into a grocery store and the clerk says that he won't serve me because I am a homosexual--do you think it does me no harm? Do you think if I drive a hundred miles into a city to see a hockey game and the moralist at the door turns me away because I am a woman or a heterosexual that I do not feel harmed??

That is silly. It is easy to harm someone without breaking the law.
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