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Politics : Formerly About Applied Materials
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To: E. T. who wrote (70624)10/1/2003 11:51:19 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (4) of 70976
 
Actually, I have read arguments for something being created out of nothing and it had nothing to do with "it" coming from somewhere else. The basis of these arguments is along the lines if you were to mix matter with anti-matter you get nothing therefore it must be possible to move the other way around. Reality as we know is simply an illusion. The universe is in a constant state of flux. I think it was Hawking (may be Penrose?) who argued these fluctuations around the boundary of a black hole can create something out of nothing because one of the twine pairs can be sucked into the black hole before it can find its twin counterpart and annihilate it. I think there is some experimental data to support these arguments.

But you may very well be right about the the "nothing" in a vacuum is different from the nothing that existed before the universe came into being for different reasons. Stated simply, the laws of physics as we know them did not apply at the moment of Big Bang. So it is possible and perhaps even likely that there was a very different "nothingness" then than our present variety.

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