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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank
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To: TimF who wrote (76129)10/2/2003 9:54:58 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
Let me summarize our points of agreement in the light of a new day:

Neither of us is speaking to legal accountability or to actionable grounds. We are discussing the issue of harm.

My point is that people who offend others do indeed harm them. When I am insulted I am harmed. When I am treated prejudicially I am harmed. When I am discriminated against I am harmed. I will give an example of the latter so that it is clear what my meaning is: I wait for 20 minutes in the grocery line (or in the waiting room of a therapy clinic), and I finally get to the check-out or the counter and the clerk (or secretary) tells me, "We're sorry...we only deal with homosexual customers and women. We don't deal with heterosexual males."

I am NOT saying people do not have a default right to certain levels of discrimination. After all, we discriminate when we marry or have sex with another person...we discriminate all day long. Discrimination is usually good. When it is actionable is a question for the law to decide. When it is merely reprehensible is for people to decide for themselves. I have already gone on record as stating that Jewel's discrimination is a gross indignity to blocks of people which mirrors history and which ought to be challenged in the Courts. You may disagree, but I accept your right to disagree. You may not, however, substitute your lack of offense for the legitimate feelings of offense experienced by the person excluded. They are offended regardless of whether or not you are. It is THEIR court case, and your feelings do not inform the picture unless you are a witness or the judge.
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