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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (116280)	10/6/2003 7:50:02 PM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Read Replies (1) of 281500

Since you used a local crime case to make your point, let me mention another one that I know about. In NYC, we had a prostitution problem around the 42nd street. Giuliani used a lot of heavy handed tactics to "clean it up". On the face of it he succeeded as you no longer see the kind of scenes you used to see. But in reality he made the problem worse. Well, then you're one of the first people to claim that NYC is worse crime-wise than before they decided clean things up. I happen to have been born and raised in NYC and the surrounding region, and though I no longer live there, I was very pleased at the changes that took place when they decided to finally take some overdue action. And the problem was hardly confined to a few hookers on 42nd St. You cannot have a functioning democratic society if law abiding citizens like myself cannot mind our own business and safely take public transportation after a certain hour, and I think this goes for Paris where I've lived as well. Is there any reason to believe he [Saddam]could not have been bribed to police the terrorist for us in exchange to minor concessions on our part ? You've conveniently forgotten that he was offered a large sum of money to leave the country and take his sons with him. I'm sure France would have been more than happy to take him in.... Once again, I don't see that it was really our job to do something about that regime in Iraq which has been a thorn in the side of the entire region for 30 years. Iraq had been a threat to other Arabs more than anything else. By any moral logic, the civilized world should be content to get rid of any criminal regime like that, but neither morals nor simple common sense apply in international diplomacy. It's more than possible for things to turn out better in Iraq than if Hussein and his family had been left in power, despite the fond hopes of the bed wetting left wing to see a world problem to blame the USA on, though it isn't going to be as easy as Shrub and his associates thought, and the work will now continue past his administration.

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