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To: Neocon who wrote (116382)10/8/2003 10:09:42 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Hi Neocon; Re: "You are mistaken."

This reminds me of the onion sketch, which now that the war has been going on for a few months, bears repeating:

Point-Counterpoint: The War On Iraq
The Onion, March 26, 2003
This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-Americanism -- "Nathan Eckert"
George W. Bush may think that a war against Iraq is the solution to our problems, but the reality is, it will only serve to create far more.

This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan the flames of hatred even higher. It will not end the threat of weapons of mass destruction; it will make possible their further proliferation. And it will not lay the groundwork for the flourishing of democracy throughout the Mideast; it will harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all Western (i.e. U.S.) influence.

If you thought Osama bin Laden was bad, just wait until the countless children who become orphaned by U.S. bombs in the coming weeks are all grown up. Do you think they will forget what country dropped the bombs that killed their parents? In 10 or 15 years, we will look back fondly on the days when there were only a few thousand Middle Easterners dedicated to destroying the U.S. and willing to die for the fundamentalist cause. From this war, a million bin Ladens will bloom.

And what exactly is our endgame here? Do we really believe that we can install Gen. Tommy Franks as the ruler of Iraq? Is our arrogance and hubris so great that we actually believe that a U.S. provisional military regime will be welcomed with open arms by the Iraqi people? Democracy cannot possibly thrive under coercion. To take over a country and impose one's own system of government without regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis of democracy. And it is doomed to fail.

A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated disaster.

No It Won't -- "Bob Sheffer"
No it won't.

It just won't. None of that will happen.

You're getting worked up over nothing. Everything is going to be fine. So just relax, okay? You're really overreacting.

"This war will not put an end to anti-Americanism; it will fan the flames of hatred even higher"?

It won't.

"It will harden the resolve of Arab states to drive out all Western (i.e. U.S.) influence"?

Not really.

"A war against Iraq is not only morally wrong, it will be an unmitigated disaster"?

Sorry, no, I disagree.

"To take over a country and impose one's own system of government without regard for the people of that country is the very antithesis of democracy"?

You are completely wrong.

Trust me, it's all going to work out perfect. Nothing bad is going to happen. It's all under control.

Why do you keep saying these things? I can tell when there's trouble looming, and I really don't sense that right now. We're in control of this situation, and we know what we're doing. So stop being so pessimistic.

Look, you've been proven wrong, so stop talking. You've had your say already.

Be quiet, okay? Everything's fine.

You're wrong.
theonion.com

-- Carl

P.S. TheOnion's humor column from March 26th now looks rather prescient: (a) WMDs have further proliferated, (b) there has been no groundwork for flourishing democracy laid anywhere, much less the Mideast, (c) the Iraqis are shooting at us for killing their friends, relatives and buddies, (d) Tommy Franks got yanked by Bush for failure to pacify Iraq, then Bremer was given the impossible job, and now Rice is taking over, (e) and many more people are arguing that the Iraq war is an unmitigated disaster.
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