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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2272)	10/27/2003 2:24:02 PM
From: Cyprian	Read Replies (2) of 5569

There is an an enormous weight of evidence that you cannot lose your salvation. oh really? ever heard of lucifer? was he not in heaven in holy communion with God at one time? would you not consider lucifer "saved"? yet he was cast out from heaven to the pit. When we're born again we are "sealed" by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. The seal is a stamp of ownership. We are owned by Jesus Christ. in this case, wouldn't you say that judas was "owned" by Jesus Christ? was he "sealed" until the day of redemption? That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. --Acts 1:25 judas going to his own place doesn't sound like he is saved anymore now does it! We are His! We cannot revert back to ownership by the old you know who again the Word of God clearly says otherwise. let's turn to the book of acts where Jesus is referring to the apostles: While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. --Acts 17:12 not only does Christ say that judas is lost, but he also calls him the son of perdition. i trust you know what that means. seems pretty clear from the scriptures that it is possible to grieve away the holy spirit and revert back to ownership by the son of perdition. we can contrast the story of judas with the story of peter. peter denied Jesus thrice, yet repented and turned again toward the Lord, with an entirely different outcome.

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