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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: greenspirit who wrote (118295)11/2/2003 4:32:51 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
re: the Eco-Judas and The Rise of Eco-Extremism:

<It (environmentalism) is anti-human. The human species is characterized as a "cancer" on the face of the earth.>

A cancer is a part of the whole that has lost its internal controls, is outgrowing its food sources, and threatens the existence of the whole. When any species (lemmings, caribou, rabbits, wolves, humans) do this, the result is eventual catastrophe (an abrupt and very painful Reversion to the Mean). That's the analogy, and it's not "anti-human".

<It is anti-technology and anti-science.>

A Big Lie. It is the ideologically anti-environmental Bush Administration that is anti-science. When faced with the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community, that global warming is real and caused by human activity, how do they react? They do exactly what they did when the CIA and State Dept. wouldn't tell them what they wanted to hear about WMD in Iraq: they set up a parallel source for the needed "facts" (invented by paid ideologues, in whatever quantity and flavor needed). Their motto is "First Faith, then Facts", and this is fundamentally (pun intended) anti-science.

<Environmental extremists tend to expect the whole world to adopt anarchism as the model for individual behavior.>

Earlier, he accused them of being closet Marxists (Authoritarians, who want Total Control by AllPowerful government). Anarchists want the opposite. Which is it? Is he confused? No. He's just a paid shill, throwing mud (the more thrown, the greater chances some will stick), cynically using mutually contradictory criticisms.

<It is anti-trade.> It is against some specific types of trade. Saying environmentalists are against all trade, is another false generalization.

<It is anti-free enterprise.> This actually is partly true. Greens are against completely unrestricted property rights. The reason is, air and water and pollutants don't stay neatly within private property lines. So, unrestricted freedom for free enterprise, amounts to a license to externalize costs. Without restrictions on property rights, the global commons (air, oceans) gets overgrazed and poisoned.

<They dislike "competition"> Actually, Greens would be happy, in many situations, to let the market make decisions, and stop having Big Government distort the market with subsidies and special deals. For instance, without massive government subsidies, not a single nuclear power plant would ever have been built in the U.S.

<It is anti-democratic...eco-fascism> First the Greens are Marxists, then Anarchists....now fascists? Next he'll claim an Al Queda-Greenpeace link (Saddam brought them together). He'll prove it, with facts supplied by the NeoCon Cabal, and position papers from the American Enterprise Institute. It's a Stalinist-Anarchist-Nazi-Islamist-Baathist terrorist conspiracy. And anti-human. Too silly for any response other than mockery.
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