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To: Neocon who wrote (118381)	11/3/2003 11:01:39 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Hi NC, Havent been around much but I am beginning to see parallels in iraq to israels experience in lebanon and frances experience in algeria rather than ours in vietnam. So perhaps some new ideas below that i have just started to entertain. I think we can win this thing in the north and south but if we dont deal with the Triangle in decisive terms, that cancer may indeed spread out. Fall back position could be the acceptance of an iran/southern iraq relationship to secure the southern areas to as far north as they can go. Perhaps some population movement out of the triangle for shiites who wish to save their arses. In the north, kurds/turks rapprochement under auspices of Wahington who has influence with both. Perhaps, kurdistan including turkish part as a separate state within turkey? Please keep in mind that i am thinking outloud here about a fall back position. I am hoping that we can gain control of the situation in the Sunni triangle but after seeing the dancing saddamite kids at the downing of the chinook and imagining the dancing fundamentalists, I am far less confident than i was when i stopped posting several months ago. If there is a three way split, the big question becomes how to contain the new Baath controlled rump state after the US and GB pull out--imo that should fall to Turkey and Iran. I am a believer in an evolving iran, so ten years down the road things may not be as bad as we imagine under this scenario. Again this is a first stab at an alternate reality so be patient with the thinking process behind it. Mike PS Also it becomes very important to me that the dems offer an acceptable candidate because the reality here is that bush can lose. I like Gephardt and have gotten over his miserable failure remarks about bush. It would have been better for him to say that his policies were miserable failures. In any case, he is a decent fellow and i judge him to be a realist on fp. I cant stand Dr. Dean probably because he seems to reflect the arrogance of so many in that profession in an earlier time. Those doctors ultimately brought us the trial lawyers and the hmo's because they wouldnt give up their exorbitant fees and their penchant for wednesday golf. And he has done a 180 on his libertarian views he ran on as the pro-gun, anti drug law guy in vt. I am interested in the responses from this crew.

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