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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (490147)11/10/2003 2:25:47 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
(I'm sorry Buddy, but I'd like to wrap this up. So, if you don't mind, 'll let you have the last word-- unless you really want me to respond to something.)

OK, so you don't believe that work is necessary in that regard. Fine. do you also believe --- as I do --- that all forms of income should be taxed at the same rate?

Absolutely. Income is income is income.

Oh, so you don't believe that JC's 'portfolio' extends to everyone --- it's just for his current believers?

I absolutely believe His Law extends to everyone – liberating many and condemning the rest. And I certainly do think His followers should practice Christian principles. But all of this lies outside of your understanding and that of a great many in the world. So I will not push it on you and you obviously ought not and cannot push it on me. So stop trying.

What principle? That people get taxed, and that money gets spent on lots of things that they, as individuals, might not support? No kidding!

It is more fundamental than that. Their money is being spent on things that are objectively against the nature of all humans. No natural right exists to force this sort of support.

Buddy, you said: “Plenty of 'rich people' try to steal that 'power' called money too...“

I responded by saying: “(sigh) Then they are wrong, of course - which correlates with my contention.”

Now you ask me: (By the way, what 'contention' was it?)


The contention that, unlike you, I have consistently maintained all along, from the very first post of this thread to now. (see the first post of this thread).

Irrelevant to what, exactly?

See above.

Well.... I beg to differ. I'm all for ideal, Platonic societies (goals are GOOD).... It's just that the only actual examples we have are the real societies....

The principle I refer to is true whether in an unreal or real society. You have not yet shown how it is not true. At best, you have claimed, merely claimed, that it results in unsavory circumstances. That is not true in fact, and simply because people die in nature is no reason to claim anyone has an obligation to stop such death.
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