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Politics : The Castle

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To: TimF who wrote (2348)11/20/2003 1:31:46 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 7936
 
No I'm not, infact I explicity said otherwise. I'm just saying they are demons,

Good.........we agree on something.

and they aren't even acting as badly as the Palestinians are.

Why? Because an AK-47 is cleaner than a suicide bomber?

The indigenous people in the US did not have title to the land

They where the people living on it and using it, and in many cases the Palestinians didn't have title either.


The Indians had no concept of private ownership; the Arabs did and do.

nor did they object to the Europeans

Some of them objected quite forcibly. They tended to die.


Not initially.........they only started to worry when European diseases started to kill them off and by that time, it was too late. The most aggressive Indians were the Sioux in the West. The rest were fairly docile.

at least not at first nor did they even have villages or cities.

Not cities (at least not in what is now the US, further south there was cities) but some of the tribes and confederations had pretty good sized settlements and real political structure. You where not talking about a few small scattered groups of people.


On the contrary, they had very little societal structure, and most were nomadic with summer homes and winter homes. We are talking about a very different culture from the Palestinians.

Its why we ended up paying the native Americans large sums of money, setting aside huge tracts of land for them and providing them special benefits.

Huge tracts of land in out of the way places, often in the desert and often that we forced them in to.


No worse than the WB and Gaza; in fact, the conditions in many cases were much better.

As ethnic cleansings go it was more benign then most but it was in many cases ethnic cleansing.>

Ethnic cleansing is genocide. Most Indian deaths came from disease and not the rifle.

However there is another side of the story. At least some sources say that warning was provided to try to minimize civlian casultees and the Jewish National Council denounced the bombing.

us-israel.org;

Oh please, that's a crock of sh*t. I saw this video......some of the Zionists who did the bombing were trying to say it was an act of war. It was terrorism and it is not the only example.

BTW the Zionists who committed this travesty were proud of what they had done.......just like the suicide bombers.

The difference is that the Palestinian Authority, and apparently the majority of the Palestinian population is proud of the suicide bombers.


Huh? How is that different?

What about the ones in the WB or Gaza? They have no freedom.

They have more then the Arabs do in a number of Arab countries, and part of there lack of freedom is directly imposed on them by Arafat and the Islamic radicals (not acting in concert but each group imposing a level of control over different areas or different people within an area).


They elected Arafat. Arafat imposes little control because Sharon has stripped him of his powers. He's been holed up in his office for nearly a year.....living and working there.

Israel has no right to keep the Palestinians people as refuge to order to assuage its own fears.

Every governments first duty is to its own people's security. Countries that fail to consider that a primary duty don't last when their security is threatened. The Palestinians could have also been more free if they had accepted peace with Israel.


How can they accept peace when they are getting screwed?

Do the PA and Hammas have no right to keep the Palestinian people in a violent unfree state because they want to shift the map a few miles in their favor?

Do the Israelis have the right to take land that is not theirs?

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