As I was saying, Re: "The fact that fantasy is all that is needed to refute him is interesting... ."
You disagree? His self-described fantasy by definition needs no serious refutation. You should realize, any proper fantasy could refute him, refuting fantasy is both moot and eminently doable...its akin to fiction, you see?
Re: "You can't refute it, obviously."
I realize you want me to refute fantasy, but it seems like a silly and moot waste of time to write fiction refuting fiction. Writing fiction is irrelevant here, if funny to those who agree with views exposed/expressed within. But it is also acceptable fodder for the thread, don't you think? As for refuting views that are perhaps expressed within Ray's fantasy, I've often been here doing so in my way. The bottom line here is that if you don't hear me out nor agree with me, you somehow think its ok or meaningful to charge that I "can't refute" a fantasy! Heck, I think you "can't refute" lots of things too(many of which aren't fantasies), and I think the objective way in which you, Ray, and others will ignore points made, kinda backs me up. Fact is, there really are people who haven't fully made up their minds whether they are on the left or the right, authoritarian or libertarian. When the undecided ones read here, I think, well - let me be modest - at least half of them aren't going to think you made the best case.
Dan B. |
