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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (18820)12/6/2003 4:40:31 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) of 793682
 
Those Californians may have been nutty as fruitcakes, but it's really hard to make out they didn't have faith.

You are probably right. The two leaders did claim to be reincarnate from heaven. I am not sure what they believed beyond that.
I said in the first and last phrase of that sentence, "I would invite those who care not for what this country stands for...to catch a ride on a comet." I'll stand by that.

Beyond that though, I was thinking it would be pretty difficult to convince the Israelis that this is not a religious war. It would be pretty difficult to convince anyone that the fascist war against Judaism wasn't a religious war and persecution.

THere are 1.5 billion Muslims on earth.
10% or 150 million are militant Muslims. Meaning they are willing to fight or at least support the fight to impose the Muslim religion.
10% of them or 15 million are Muslim extremists willing to engage in attacks today.
10% of them or 1.5 million are estimated to be willing to become a suicide attacker today or as they think..."Become a Martyr".

The phrase "kill all Jews and kill all Christians" is not a trite phrase uttered by obl. It is believed to be a duty by the Muslim militants and a religious obligation by the Muslim extremists.

Except in the case of Israel where it is just about killing Jews, I cannot think of a single religious war where one religion was not trying to impose a belief on someone else. The opponents' beliefs are not important. It is what they do not subscribe to that becomes the big issue.

The war against fascism and communism could easily be described as a religious war because it pitted mostly Christians and Jews against mostly atheists.

The India/Pakistan conflict pits Muslims against Hindus.
Kosovo was Muslims against Christians.
Palestine/Israel is Muslim against Jew.
Bali was Muslim against Christians.
9/11 was Muslim against Christian.
USS Cole was Muslim against Christian.
Tanzania and Nairobi embassy attacks were Muslim against Christian.

The Muslims are not killing us to gain "lebensraum", nor for political advantage. They are killing us because we are non-believers. Similar to the persecution and execution of non-believers or so-called heretics of the 14th and 15th century who did not subscribe to the precise teachings of the pope and Rome. Then, even minor deviations often resulted in an imposed death sentence.

I would say this to those who do not believe this is a religious war:

1. You do not know your enemy.
2. You have never been to Israel, Palestine, Yugoslavia, Iraq, India or Pakistan.
3. I bet you will never visit an Arab country wearing a yarmulke or rosary bead. When you comprehend why you won't wear those items in those countries, you will be a big step closer to understanding the religious nature of this conflict.
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