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Politics : GENEVA ACCORD

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (58)12/7/2003 2:15:57 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) of 190
 
'If the Jews had moved to Uganda, you'd be boo-hooing for the native Ugandans

Actually i don't boo-hoo much Nadine, i just point out little details in your extremely one-sided presentation, things you'd rather people forgot, or never learned ..... and it's not the 'moved' part that makes problems, it is the robbery and murder and imprisonment and general terrorism perpetrated on indigenous that keeps this struggle rolling on through the decades .... especially seeing as how the indigenous of Palestine have so many allies of the same religion and language, who happen to have found markets for all that oil under their sand .... bad luck that eh, well that's how it goes sometimes in the colonisation business

Very likely the whole project would have gone easier in Uganda, we'll never know now of course .... and by the forties it was already far too late even there, sensibilities had long since changed .... it certainly would have changed Africa, might have been handled well too, especially if the Stern gang types had been left behind on the operation ..... but basically, the whole concept of a new nation based on a religion [!] being started up in the twentieth century was stupid, quite counter-productive to the understandable desire for security following events in wwii - there simply was no 'land without a people' anywhere on the planet, and for such a twelfth-century project being placed on the territory of other whackos stuck in that time, forget it, not gonna work

Sure people move all over, all the time, not just in the mideast .... so few of us though, feel this need or desire to impose a new national regime based on an hostile religion, when one of those already exists in the place .... it's not the moving, it's what the zionists did when they got there, the way they did it, and the fact that muslims knew full well what they intended

'Are you an Arab? Are you a Muslim?' - no i am an agnostic mongrel, with the blood of three continents minimum .... there may be a trace of arab in me that came via the iberian peninsula, but if so it is far enough back as to be unnoticeable and unremembered .... nope, no cigar, if i identify with any heritage it is the native americanidad mostly, beyond that perhaps the british .... but this stuff doesn't matter, it is the ideas that count

'Why do you care so much more for the rights of "indigenous" Arabs ... than for the Jews?'

To start with, the reason i'm replying to you is that you posted to me, and you keep on posting to me .... do i care about that, mmm better ponder on the question, and ask myself why eh ..... but back to jews-vs-arabs, your question presupposes that it is possible for organised jewry to gain permanent and secure advantage by robbing the indigenous of their palestinian lands and setting up there an expressly jewish state .... i doubt very much that this is the case, all things considered, and believe that given the enemies they make for themselves in the process, they will cause more problems for themselves than they solve ..... this is pointed out by a goodly number of jewish folk too, by the way, for instance on the jewsnotzionists.org site i posted above

So if you'd like to talk caring, who cares in more effective manner for the jews - maybe it's those willing to look at all sides of the situation and understand the plight of the indigenous as well, eh .... because they are part of the Judenstaat picture, always will be now, bonded for generations to come, and as long as they lack human rights the zionists will lack security ... which is readily apparent, consider how much more secure are jews who moved to the Americas for instance, than those who 'moved' to Palestine ... why - because americanos operate secular states, that's why ..... go for the Menschenstaat, work toward it bit by bit after declaring it your goal, try it, you'll be better off, trust me, you'll save fuel and upkeep on those armoured D9s too ..... cheers
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